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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    I'm speaking figuratively. You're right at self defense ended the moment you were put into circumstances that you couldn't defend yourself against
    I'm not speaking figuratively. I'm speaking literally. My rights to self-defense do not end in the scenario I presented.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    No.

    Their ability to defend themselves was compromised, their right still existed.

    Rights don't vanish.
    rights vanish all the time, while still serving as abstract concepts in books. And the moment you are afraid to exercise your right's, due to the threat of violence, they no longer exist

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm not speaking figuratively. I'm speaking literally. My rights to self-defense do not end in the scenario I presented.
    No, my comment about the "right to get shot in the face" was me speaking figuratively. And yes, once you choose not to exercise your rights, due to fear of violence reprisal, you literally no longer have them

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Doesn't your first two statements contradict your third?
    Not at all. There is a difference between one making a choice that affects others and one having any responsibility in the behavior of those other people. For example, if I burn the US Flag, and someone gets pissed off that I did it and goes on a killing rampage, my behavior had an impact on others, and it may have been prudent for me to have not burned the flag... even though it was entirely legal for me to do so. Even with this, though, I am not responsible for the behaviors of that other person's murders.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    you are out of my league, really you are ...bravo contradiction that much in a few sentences worth confessing that for me.
    I'm not the one who thought mutual respect was having some sex-slave locked in my basement

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    No, my comment about the "right to get shot in the face" was me speaking figuratively. And yes, once you choose not to exercise your rights, due to fear of violence reprisal, you literally no longer have them
    No, you don't. You are absolutely wrong, here. You have only chosen to not exercise your rights. They still exist... you could choose to re-exercise them at any time. I am NOT speaking figuratively... literally only.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Again, they have a right to protest at the buriel of soldiers.. Would you like to kick their asses or not because they have a right?
    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Pastor had the right. Period....Like it not...and when we start regulating freedoms due to how others may react, then we have lost our freedom completely.

    This may also shock you - There will be more Terry Jones and others that will continue to provoke or pull anti-Islam stunts

    Are you also going to kick their asses? How many more asses will you have to kick?

    100, 1000, 10,000...a million asses?....Thats a lot of ass

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not at all. There is a difference between one making a choice that affects others and one having any responsibility in the behavior of those other people. For example, if I burn the US Flag, and someone gets pissed off that I did it and goes on a killing rampage, my behavior had an impact on others, and it may have been prudent for me to have not burned the flag... even though it was entirely legal for me to do so. Even with this, though, I am not responsible for the behaviors of that other person's murders.
    people decide to go on rampages for all manners of things.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    people decide to go on rampages for all manners of things.
    Sure they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    I think that in the end if you don/t like Muslims your argument is Jones has the right. If you believe in freedom of religion your argument is why go around disrespect peoples religion? My view is I don't like islamists but I can differentiate between them and average practicing Muslims. Some just group them all together and make excuses for doing so.

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