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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    I really don't think people should be held to the demands of crazy people and extremists. It's like Rauf with his community center. It's crazy to demand he move it because of how some assholes might react, and works to these forces curtailing cilvil rights
    There is a difference between what is legal and what is smart. I don't think that, legally, either Jones or Rauf should be held to the demands of others... extremists or not. Both of them did or are doing something entirely legal. That doesn't make what they did or are doing intelligent or responsible. Neither are, IMO.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

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    There is a difference between what is legal and what is smart. I don't think that, legally, either Jones or Rauf should be held to the demands of others... extremists or not. Both of them did or are doing something entirely legal. That doesn't make what they did or are doing intelligent or responsible. Neither are, IMO.
    No matter if you voluntarily relinquish your rights, due to fear, or they are taken from you by force, the end result is always the same.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    No matter if you voluntarily relinquish your rights, due to fear, or they are taken from you by force, the end result is always the same.
    There is a difference between relinquishing your rights and choosing not to exercise them. Discretion is often the prudent action.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    There is a difference between relinquishing your rights and choosing not to exercise them. Discretion is often the prudent action.
    not if you're relinquishing them out of fear. Because that means you don't have the right

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    thats what some people in us cannot understand, you think the only truth is yours, after all you are more adavancek country in the world, he?; so that gives you every right; for example some people in US brag about their democracy , freedom etc. , but the same poeple could publicly examine others religion ; like trumhp's examining the religion of Obama, it is very dramatic, cuz that man is the candidate for The presidency...

    btw it is not just a book, it is guide of muslims sent by Allah; being respectful of other is that hard for some people in us?

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    not if you're relinquishing them out of fear. Because that means you don't have the right
    No it doesn't. You still have the right. You are just choosing not to exercise it because you understand that the consequences of exercising it might be more than you want.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    thats what some people in us cannot understand, you think the only truth is yours, after all you are more adavancek country in the world, he?; so that gives you every right; for example some people in US brag about their democracy , freedom etc. , but the same poeple could publicly examine others religion ; like trumhp's examining the religion of Obama, it is very dramatic, cuz that man is the candidate for The presidency...

    btw it is not just a book, it is guide of muslims sent by Allah; being respectful of other is that hard for some people in us?
    Is it so hard for some Muslims to respect human life or the beliefs and freedoms of others?
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    thats what some people in us cannot understand, you think the only truth is yours, after all you are more adavancek country in the world, he?; so that gives you every right; for example some people in US brag about their democracy , freedom etc. , but the same poeple could publicly examine others religion ; like trumhp's examining the religion of Obama, it is very dramatic, cuz that man is the candidate for The presidency...

    btw it is not just a book, it is guide of muslims sent by Allah; being respectful of other is that hard for some people in us?
    why do you feel that I need to respect something you feel is sacred?

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No it doesn't. You still have the right. You are just choosing not to exercise it because you understand that the consequences of exercising it might be more than you want.
    right, the fear of violence should make me not do something. As i said, under such circumstances you don't have those rights

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    There is a difference between relinquishing your rights and choosing not to exercise them. Discretion is often the prudent action.
    What harm did Reverend Jones suffer as a result of his choice to exercise his freedom?

    None.

    Therefore there was no reason for him to refrain. Start telling yourself that Jones bears NO responsibility for crackpots in Afghanistan.

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