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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thought this was another petty neocon whine about the Obama administration
    and that's what it has turned out to be
    Yeah. Those pesky promises 0bama made during the campaign. Who cares about that?


    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    seems the DHS insiders have targeted papoi
    maybe she is a bush holdover trying to embarrass the Obama administration
    possibly, it was papoi's allegations which prompted the unusual review of how FOIA requests are administered
    the investigation states that no illegal actions were found: [OP cite]
    but that does not mean that politics are not being played within DHS
    that needs to be further outed
    is it Obama's people who are abusing their positions or is it the shrub's supporters trying to inflict political damage
    or maybe both
    Of course it's a Bush hold over.

    There is no way it's a broken campaign promise by 0bama.

    Couldn't be.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What is it that you wanted, then? Whenever somebody says "That's politicians," you start accusing people of dodging the question

    This statement is a crock!

    "Oh my God, my lord and savior has been tarnished! I pledge myself to the teachings of my new savior, Mitt Romney.


    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That and watching Conservatives sum up what everybody who voted for Obama thought

    We don’t have to guess. We know. Hope and change and anything but a Republican.


    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Did you listen to McCain during the campaign? His platform could be summed up in the words "4 more years."

    Of course I did. I also listened to years of McCain trashing Bush every chance he got. Lefities were all to happy to give him a forum.

    It wasn’t until he won the nomination that McCain was morphed into Bush.

    Yet another lefty hoax.


    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Punked? By who, you? That's the most laughable thing I've ever heard. By Obama? No, I voted for a politician and it turns out he is one. Hardly a surprise. You may want to watch the next election. Usually the candidates are all politicians and you choose one.

    If you believed 0bama’s rhetoric during the campaign and voted on the basis of what he said you were punked.

    Unless of course you voted for 0bama because your driven 100% by politics and didn’t care what he said or his complete lack of experience.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Unless of course you voted for 0bama because your driven 100% by politics and didn’t care what he said or his complete lack of experience.
    People often cite "lack of experience".

    Honestly, no one on this planet is "qualified" to be president of the most powerful country to ever exist on this earth (so far).

    No president I believe was ever "qualified" for that kind of a position.

    Some just did better at it then others, no presidency has ever been perfect.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    And where exactly are you from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Just thought we could give your system of government a look see.

    Your dodge has been noted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Just sitting on the sidelines slinging mud I see.

    Reminds me of the guy giving you crap because your football team lost when he doesn't have a team.

    Nice dodge Jet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    All noble and just nations.

    I don't pay close attention to the inner workings of other free and peaceful nations.

    I have enough trouble keeping track of my own nation and reading about US history.
    Did you hear that resounding THWACK echo across the landscape? That was the sound of my palm smacking into my forehead. It was a reflex response to the echoing depths of the fatuousness that you apparently felt the uncontrollable urge to bleed all over this thread.

    Jet is a smart cookie who learns things and reads stuff and is perfectly capable of making intelligent observations about American politics without actually being an American. There are, in fact, a lot of people who are neither residents of the US nor US citizens who are familiar with the structure of our government, its laws, and its foibles. This is partly because we Americans tend to walk around acting as if our government is the only one worthy of discussion, and partly because America has its finger in a lot of pies. The fact that they are not Americans does not disqualify them in any way from contributing intelligently to a discussion of American politics, nor does it make their opinion any less valuable than yours.

    I see that Jet opted to answer your question about where he's from, but the question itself was totally irrelevant. Asking it to begin with was a clear demonstration of the intelligence deficit disorder that I mentioned earlier. If Jet had been saying something like "my government rawks and your government suks har har har," then it would've been relevant. If Jet had demonstrated a clear ignorance of American politics, then it might've been relevant. He didn't do either, and simply said what I would've said if I'd gotten there first.

    If that wasn't bad enough, as it turns out you didn't even care where Jet hails from. You were asking so that if he pointed out the irrelevance of your question you could jab him for "dodging." That was it. That was the only reason you asked. You might've been considering using his country of origin or residence as an excuse to tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about, but since he obviously does you were at least intelligent enough to avoid jamming your foot so far down your throat that you could stand on your ass.

    It should humiliate you that you even vaguely considered playing the "foreigner" card in the same thread where you admit to not only total ignorance but also a total lack of interest in the political workings of other countries. I suppose it would, if you possessed the capacity for embarrassment. This most arrogant brand of cognitive dissonance is one of a list of things that makes me ashamed of my homeland.



    Finally, for the record: I have no illusions that Jet needed or even wanted me to defend him. Like I said, he's a smart cookie. I just couldn't control myself. It seems to me that if I don't address this sort of stupidity where I find it, I'm tacitly supporting it -- which is why I haven't been around here as much, why a lot of other posters around here haven't been around as much, and why your brand of mental diarrhea is becoming the rule rather than the exception around here.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    The neocons are coming!!!

    The neocons are coming!!!

    Run for the hills!!!!
    Thanks for the third party technique assistance!

    Reimprintng my new word, Fox stylie!
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    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post

    Of course I did. I also listened to years of McCain trashing Bush every chance he got. Lefities were all to happy to give him a forum.

    It wasn’t until he won the nomination that McCain was morphed into Bush.

    Yet another lefty hoax.
    So it's a lefty hoax that McCain went from trashing Bush, to getting the nomination and becoming Bush? That's exactly what happened, and I didn't vote for him because I had no idea who he was anymore. From his campaign, I couldn't tell if that was John McCain or not. I gladly would have voted for McCain over Gore in 2000. By 2008, we had no idea who McCain was anymore, because suddenly he became a right wing radical. Why would I want to vote for someone who flip flopped so dramatically before he even took office?

    That, in a nutshell, is why I voted for Obama. I quite simply had no idea who John McCain was anymore.

    Lack of experience? Well, he'd been President of the United States for exactly as many years as anyone else on the ballot in 2008. How about that?

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Gotta love it when lifties try to sum up Conservatives beliefs. It's rather fun to watch.
    Why is it that conservatives seem to immediately assume anyone who doesn't agree with them is a liberal? There's this little thing called a lean next to everyone's post.
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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Because some people (not just conservatives) have a very black-and-white, short-sighted view of the world. To disagree with them is to be the polar opposite of them. If you list yourself as anything than "very liberal" and you disagree with such a conservative, or anything other than "very conservative" and disagree with such a liberal, it's because you're implicitly lying to the rest of the board. Some of them will make it their mission to expose your deception to the light of day, and some of them satisfy themselves with random snark discharges.

    Think of it as the mental clap.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    Why is it that conservatives seem to immediately assume anyone who doesn't agree with them is a liberal? There's this little thing called a lean next to everyone's post.
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    It's the black vs. white worldview. "You're either with us, or you're against us." - GWB.

    I'm used to it by now. I've actually been accused of being a member of Hamas because I don't see the issue in the Middle East as being "Israel = Saintly."
    To be fair, Liberals do the same thing sometimes.

    It's the pitfall of being a centrist, the extremists on both sides hate you. If you ask me, it's actually the biggest reason Jesse Ventura couldn't succeed as governor here in Minnesota. If the Democrats weren't trying to trap him, the Republicans were.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    People often cite "lack of experience".

    Honestly, no one on this planet is "qualified" to be president of the most powerful country to ever exist on this earth (so far).

    No president I believe was ever "qualified" for that kind of a position.

    Some just did better at it then others, no presidency has ever been perfect.
    I would agree to some extent jet. There are few positions that prepare a person to handle the job of POTUS.

    However, here in the US the unwritten qualifications are generally some type of executive experience (mayor or governor), having been involved in running or owning a business, military service, and extensive involvement in politics to name a few.

    0bama had none of those.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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