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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Anyone that thinks Obama is a liberal, has no idea what an American liberal really is....
    OK. What's a liberal/progressive these days? What do they stand for?
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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    actually, i was referring to your post, where you term actions to have been "corrupt" despite the IG investigation finding that no illegality was evident:

    i will now accept that you haven't any understanding of the word "corrupt", since you use it inappropriately


    and now you prove to us that you similarly have no understanding of the word, "subvert"

    the head of homeland security wants to monitor the nature of inquiries seeking to find out her movements. no way could al qaeda seek to use such insider information to harm a senior administration official in another strike finally, you got something right. the IG report concludes no illegal activities were found. if there is corruption then the IG would have also identified illegal activities

    you, mostly
    This of course needs POLITICAL oversight, doesn't it?
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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please explain for us how a matter investigated by the inspector general, where no illegal activities were found, is then temed "corrupt"
    corrupt - Having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain,
    Evil or morally depraved,
    Debased or made unreliable by errors or alterations

    None of the various definitions require something to be illegal in order for it to be corrupt.

    Politicians get large contributions from individuals or companies that wish to influence them - this is corrupt even though it is not illegal.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This of course needs POLITICAL oversight, doesn't it?
    don't find the head of the homeland security agency being aware of what is provided to someone inquiring about her movements is in any way inappropriate

    if the heads of agencies during the dicknbush regime had been more attentive we may have been able to avert the 9/11 tragedy
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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please explain for us how a matter investigated by the inspector general, where no illegal activities were found, is then temed "corrupt"
    AFAICT, "corrupt" isn't necessarily exclusively associated with illegal activity

    Corrupt | Define Corrupt at Dictionary.com
    –adjective
    1.
    guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.
    2.
    debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.
    3.
    made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.
    4.
    infected; tainted.
    5.
    decayed; putrid.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    don't find the head of the homeland security agency being aware of what is provided to someone inquiring about her movements is in any way inappropriate
    All of the FOIA requests reviewed by 0bama's political minions were about Janet Napolitano's movements? All of them?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the heads of agencies during the dicknbush regime had been more attentive we may have been able to avert the 9/11 tragedy
    Sure would have been nice to get OBL on one of the many chances we had to do so.
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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    don't find the head of the homeland security agency being aware of what is provided to someone inquiring about her movements is in any way inappropriate
    And it's not. But neither is it the objectionable part of the story.

    Requests were being delayed to the point where the career employees of the DHS were worried about being sued. The cause of those delays was so that political operatives could scan and prepare for the implications of the release of documents before the general public. Further, even though these FOIA requests weren't technically awaiting these political operatives approval to be released, the documents could not be released until after these political operatives had done their business with the documents. So for practical purposes, the effect was nearly the same.

    Second, items were redacted from these requested FOIA documents not because of national security concerns but because they were embarrassing to the Admin.

    It was for these reasons and some closely related ones that there's been an objection. The objection is not to the "head of the homeland security agency being aware of what is provided."
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    don't find the head of the homeland security agency being aware of what is provided to someone inquiring about her movements is in any way inappropriate
    few care what you do or don't find appropriate

    the ig called out the politcal screening and insisted it must stop

    if the heads of agencies during the dicknbush regime had been more attentive
    grow up

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    don't find the head of the homeland security agency being aware of what is provided to someone inquiring about her movements is in any way inappropriate

    if the heads of agencies during the dicknbush regime had been more attentive we may have been able to avert the 9/11 tragedy
    How so?...............

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    Re: Investigations Find ‘Unprecedented’ Political Review of FOIA Requests by Homeland

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the heads of agencies during the dicknbush regime had been more attentive we may have been able to avert the 9/11 tragedy
    It's amazing how quickly Republicans forget that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. And when they are reminded of that inconvenient fact, they quickly shift the blame to Clinton. Then those same folks will blame Obama for the economy and completely ignore the role Bush played in the collapse.

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