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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Then we disagree. At least you're not twisting my argument.


    Okay, well that has strategic value for the purpose of the mission. I imagine military strategists would not encourage burning Korans when it doesn't have strategic value and could lead to unnecessary casualties.
    I'm not twisting your words, I am applying your logic to various circumstances to show what it amounts to. If you feel that certain groups are exempt from logic, then that's an issue with your consistency as a thinker, and not their application

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is it going to lead to un-necessary casualties?
    By pissing off the locals and causing violence? Esp. as it can be avoided

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Part of being a good American is showing respect for others religious beliefs.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    By pissing off the locals and causing violence? Esp. as it can be avoided
    If we draw terrorists out into the open and kill them, then I'm not seeing how any friendly casulaties would be deemed, "un-necessary".

    You still condemn terrorism. Yes?

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    right, and interracial couples are not born that way, and there is no fundamental need for them to be together. So by your reasoning, they are at fault if racists attack them, because they were being provocative and interracial
    Nope, another false comparison. Interracial couples can choose to not be in a relationship just as Americans can choose to abandon their culture. Unfortunately for you, I'm not arguing that either choice should be made. Interracial couples should stay together and Americans should keep their values/culture.

    I'm talking about provocation by provoking actively (i.e. burning the Koran) - not about provocation by being (i.e. being American).

    1) the accusation of "projection" makes no sense here
    2) you have suggested it numerous times. If you want, I can provide the numerous quotes were you state not giving into unreasonable demands is provocation, and makes the person at fault. If such a position strikes you as moronic, once actually studied, that isn't my fault
    Don't provoke murderers. That's my claim. Anything else about blaming victims of the KKK for being in interracial relationships is projection.

    Right, like all those people who taunted the klan by publicly disagreeing with them. Clearly they were at fault for the violence committed against them
    I'm talking about taunting, not about criticism. Get it straight. Taunting =/= criticism.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    Oh, so it was only the people who participated in civil right marches that were to blame for the violence against them. Thank you for clarifying your position
    Nope. The exact opposite.

    Again - criticism =/= taunting.

    Edit: I would also add that I have not attributed sole blame to the Pastor in question - I have only given him a role as one of the many causes of these violent actions - which happened in response to his book burning.
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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    Part of being a good American is showing respect for others religious beliefs.
    Muslims don't share that value?

    You must get pissed as hell when someone defiles anything to do with Christianity.

    The Piss Christ suddenly comes to mind.


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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    I'm not twisting your words, I am applying your logic to various circumstances to show what it amounts to. If you feel that certain groups are exempt from logic, then that's an issue with your consistency as a thinker, and not their application
    Nope, your evaluating my arguments with your preconceived notions about them. This is causing you to twist my arguments into things that I have neither said nor implied.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You still condemn terrorism. Yes?
    lol at you even asking me that question.

    Take a guess

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    This helps to support the position that Islam is not so much a Religion but a Cult.

    I can't believe that God, Buddha, or anyone of the thousands of names used by various Religions to depict a Supreme being would condone the Murder of innocent people who had not even a remote connection to the one considered the offender.

    What is troubling in the extreme to me is that Terry Jones does not see or accept any responsibility for the killings.

    I see Jones as being every bit as bad as the Islamic Cultists themselves.

    Jones by holding a mock trial on the Koran on video and posting it on You Tube has put the lives of everyone in the videos's life in jeopardy. He may well pay the ultimate price for his lack of Christian values.

    I put this creeps Church in the same category as the Westboro Baptist Church that protest activities, that include picketing funerals of soldiers and desecrating the American flag, attacking Jews and Homosexuals.

    I know the First Amendment protects this guys Protests, but this act was likely to cause this to happen, just as yelling fire in a crowded Theater, and should be punishable in the same way.
    Last edited by Councilman; 04-02-11 at 05:02 PM.

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