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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Must be a problem with terrorists/radical Muslims, more than anything else. Yes?
    I can agree with that. Since when do we give a rat's ass about terrorists's feelings?

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    interracial couples simply existing is seen as provocative to racists
    I agree. Just as being American is seen as provocative to anti-American terrorists. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about who we are - I'm talking about what we do.

    (and in your mind such would make them at fault for any violence directed at them).
    Nope. Stop projecting. Never said it, never implied it.

    They don't need to have sex in front of them for that. Also, the man burned the Quran in the US, not in front of the angry mob that killed random people.
    The similarity is in the fact that one goes out of their way to taunt murderers. Interracial couples just being together is not them going out of their way to taunt racists just as Americans just being Americans is not going out of their way to taunt murderers. The other situations are going out of your way to taunt people.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    When did I talk about the Klan?

    I'll repeat my claim: It is stupid and dangerous to mock/taunt murderers and terrorists who we already know are capable of killing people for such actions. Do you disagree?
    Yes, I disagree. If we don't challenge them, we can never defeat them. It sounds as if they've already got you intimidated into submission.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    No, you implied that people should self censor, due to the possible reaction of groups like the klan, or radical islamists
    I personally wouldn't go burning Korans all over the place, but you go ahead if you think that's smart...

    right, like all those stupid people who were critical of the klan
    Being critical of terrorism is not the same thing as burning a Koran...for many reasons.

    right like all those "stupid" people who taunted the klan. And it isn't a straw man, it's a direct application of your, erm, "logic". According to you, they were at fault for not respecting the unreasonable demands of the klan. To you, the people who were murdered by the Klan were at fault for a adopting a principled position
    Nope, straw man again. I never made nor implied that argument. Being critical of the Klan is not the same as taunting them. Being critical of terrorism is not the same as taunting terrorists.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, I disagree. If we don't challenge them, we can never defeat them. It sounds as if they've already got you intimidated into submission.
    Nope. Being critical of terrorism is not the same as taunting terrorists.

    Military strategists who criticize terrorism don't ever seem to tell soldiers to taunt terrorists - there is the difference. Criticism vs. Taunting. I support the former.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree. Just as being American is seen as provocative to anti-American terrorists. Unfortunately, I'm not talking about who we are - I'm talking about what we do.
    right, and interracial couples are not born that way, and there is no fundamental need for them to be together. So by your reasoning, they are at fault if racists attack them, because they were being provocative and interracial


    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nope. Stop projecting. Never said it, never implied it.
    1) the accusation of "projection" makes no sense here

    2) you have suggested it numerous times. If you want, I can provide the numerous quotes were you state not giving into unreasonable demands is provocation, and makes the person at fault. If such a position strikes you as moronic, once actually studied, that isn't my fault


    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The similarity is in the fact that one goes out of their way to taunt murderers. Interracial couples just being together is not them going out of their way to taunt racists just as Americans just being Americans is not going out of their way to taunt murderers. The other situations are going out of your way to taunt people.
    Right, like all those people who taunted the klan by publicly disagreeing with them. Clearly they were at fault for the violence committed against them

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nope. Being critical of terrorism is not the same as taunting terrorists.
    I don't see anything wrong with taunting them, either.

    Military strategists who criticize terrorism don't ever seem to tell soldiers to taunt terrorists - there is the difference. Criticism vs. Taunting. I support the former.
    Got anything to back that up? I would venture to guess that combat patrols, within the terrorists's stomping ground is definitely, "taunting", them. We have to draw them out into the open and destroy them.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with taunting them, either.
    Then we disagree. At least you're not twisting my argument.

    Got anything to back that up? I would venture to guess that combat patrols, within the terrorists's stomping ground is definitely, "taunting", them. We have to draw them out into the open and destroy them.
    Okay, well that has strategic value for the purpose of the mission. I imagine military strategists would not encourage burning Korans when it doesn't have strategic value and could lead to unnecessary casualties.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nope. Being critical of terrorism is not the same as taunting terrorists.

    Military strategists who criticize terrorism don't ever seem to tell soldiers to taunt terrorists - there is the difference. Criticism vs. Taunting. I support the former.
    Oh, so it was only the people who participated in civil right marches that were to blame for the violence against them. Thank you for clarifying your position

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Then we disagree. At least you're not twisting my argument.


    Okay, well that has strategic value for the purpose of the mission. I imagine military strategists would not encourage burning Korans when it doesn't have strategic value and could lead to unnecessary casualties.
    How is it going to lead to un-necessary casualties?

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