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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    I just explained that I feel it isn't worth my time to discuss things with people who don't see any value in me as an individual
    It has nothing to do with "your value" and more to do with their "morals." But you don't want to understand why.

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    well, great for you


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    So I'm to blame that you lacked the ability to see your ideals as dumb and bigoted? Well, you have my humblest apology *curtsies*
    Ummmm? You are not to blame for anything? I said "people like you" were one of many reasons that helped derail my support for SSM.

    As for "dumb and bigoted" no my views were not. You seem to like unfounded accusations and personal attacks more than debate.

    So with that I will say God bless, and good night.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    You keep saying it's a right. I have already said it is. That doesn't mean you need to excersize it. He did this to make other people upset. And on top of that he has made a decission to lump anyone who is Muslim together. And you support that. I have just mentioned that many Muslims have seved this country with distinction and you still think because Jones has a right he should do it. You keep confusing the right to do something with the need. Or for that matter the possible consiquences. We are all grown up to know this is about Jones and his hate for Muslims. It's that simple. But he didn't go out and risk his own butt. He hides behind the protection of those who do have their butts on the line to play some silly game. That shouldn't be supported and encouraged. He should be called out as a bigot and a coward. And an instigator.
    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    well, unfortunately for you, many people have based their criticism on the pastor doing this, despite the possibility of violence.



    no one said he did



    If you mean "be critical of a religion, as is guaranteed by the constitution", I would say yes, that was the point. But being critical of things often gets people upset, and see that as no basis to curtail such rights




    so we should curtail free speech because muslims have died fighting for our basic rights, one of which is the right to free speech?

    I suggest actually thinking before you type




    Because he was criticizing the religion, as is his right.
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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    They don't live here and don't share your constitutional rights. Again, They are not trying to indoctrinate you personally so why support a guy who hides behind "our" rights to tweek others into violence. What do you get out of it except the satisfaction of bothering people?
    Because I took an oath, to protect his rights, even if I don't agree with what he's doing, or saying and although I'm no longer under an official obligation to do so, I still feel a personal obligation to support this cat's right to burn whichever book he wishes, whether I like it, or not.

    It's legal for the Westboro Baptist Church to protest soldiers's funerals and for people to burn the American Flag, both of which make me want to kick someone's ass, but because they have the right to do so, there's not much I can do. The people involved in these murders need to join us here in the 21st Century and realize that, the way that I realize it. "It's just the way their culture is", is no excuse.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    You keep saying it's a right. I have already said it is. That doesn't mean you need to excersize it. He did this to make other people upset. And on top of that he has made a decission to lump anyone who is Muslim together. And you support that. I have just mentioned that many Muslims have seved this country with distinction and you still think because Jones has a right he should do it. You keep confusing the right to do something with the need. Or for that matter the possible consiquences. We are all grown up to know this is about Jones and his hate for Muslims. It's that simple. But he didn't go out and risk his own butt. He hides behind the protection of those who do have their butts on the line to play some silly game. That shouldn't be supported and encouraged. He should be called out as a bigot and a coward. And an instigator.
    all this has already been addressed: see my arguments on the civil rights movement, the kkk, and interracial couples

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    If morons in this country didn't walk around burning Korans and proving Islamic extremists right (who claim that the U.S. hates Muslims), some of this stuff could be avoided. Some people will always hate us, but when we prove their accusations right, their cause becomes more legitimate and violence like this becomes more likely.
    Some people hate christains and jews, some people hate white, black or brown folk. Why are we expected to walk on eggshells so as not to offend the thin skinned muslim? Makes me wanna burn my Quran.
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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Some people hate christains and jews, some people hate white, black or brown folk. Why are we expected to walk on eggshells so as not to offend the thinned skinned muslim? Makes me wanna burn my Quran.
    Oh you're such a tease Rock

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    So you support the fact that it may also upset people who are American Muslims and have defended our country? Because it obviously hurt them also.
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    all this has already been addressed: see my arguments on the civil rights movement, the kkk, and interracial couples

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Is someone trying to stop you from burning Qurans? This again was never about the right to do so. I know it and so do you.
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Some people hate christains and jews, some people hate white, black or brown folk. Why are we expected to walk on eggshells so as not to offend the thin skinned muslim? Makes me wanna burn my Quran.

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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    So you support the fact that it may also upset people who are American Muslims and have defended our country? Because it obviously hurt them also.
    I am very glad I have the right to be offended in this country. If that right was gone, we would have a much bigger problem.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: 8 killed in protest at UN office in Northern Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    So you support the fact that it may also upset people who are American Muslims and have defended our country? Because it obviously hurt them also.
    repeating yourself adds no validity to your arguments

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059386978

    also, no one has a fundamental right not to be offended. You know, like racists complaining about interracial couples isn't justification for outlawing interracial couples

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