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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, I remember death panels quite well...
    Me too. Palin was right.
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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Me too. Palin was right.
    Actually, no she was not. No death panels anywhere in the bill.
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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I believe the point he is making is that the 0bama admin is doing the same thing they constantly critize the right for. Correct me if I'm wrong Whovian.

    This isn't some guy at a rally with a sign. This is an 0bama official saying Republican budget cuts will kill children. 70,000 no less.

    70,000 dead children!!!! Those wascally wepwicans.
    Both sides fear monger. The real problem is those who eat it up and pass in on, like with death panels. Budget cuts will have an effect, and most likely will hurt, but there is no need for hyperbole or exaggeration. Fear mongering is something we should recognize and dismiss, even condemn.

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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Please.

    The entire platform of the Democrat party is built on race baiting, fear, and excuses for failure. There's not a stitch of substance within it.

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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Please.

    The entire platform of the Democrat party is built on race baiting, fear, and excuses for failure. There's not a stitch of substance within it.
    If you do not see the republicans doing the same thing, you're willingly suspending disbelief.

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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Me too. Palin was right.
    PolitiFact | Sarah Palin falsely claims Barack Obama runs a 'death panel'

    On the topic at hand, fear-mongering is as old as politics. These days I'm never surprised whenever either side uses the tactic.
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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    And the libtards want to call Republicans 'fear mongers'? HA!!!!!!!!

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    They ARE fear mongers. Just because McDonalds has hamburgers doesnt mean Burger King doesnt. Dude you HAVE to realize that BOTH sides are using similar tactics. If not then youre cannon fodder.
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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    PolitiFact | Sarah Palin falsely claims Barack Obama runs a 'death panel'

    On the topic at hand, fear-mongering is as old as politics. These days I'm never surprised whenever either side uses the tactic.
    Sadly that's true.

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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    And the libtards want to call Republicans 'fear mongers'? HA!!!!!!!!

    Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids - FoxNews.com
    Hey, the left has been worried about over-population for 40 years. So they must be bragging about this.
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    Re: Obama Official: GOP Budget Would Kill 70,000 Kids

    WASHINGTON— A new health regulation issued this month offers elderly Medicare health insurance recipients voluntary end-of-life planning – the practice that former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin likened to “death panels” during the debate over Obamacare. Democrats had dropped it from the monumental healthcare overhaul, according to Fox News, but the Obama administration has written it back in.

    The provision allows Medicare to pay for voluntary counseling to help beneficiaries deal with the complex and painful decisions families face when a loved one is approaching death. The "voluntary advance care planning" is included in a Medicare regulation issued Dec. 3 that covers annual checkups, known as wellness visits. It goes into effect Jan. 1.

    New Obama Rule Returns 'Death Panels' to Law

    If you want to know what Palin actually said you can read her statement and follow along with the media deliberately lying about it.

    Unfortunately, Politifact’s distortion of Palin’s statement went largely unchecked by other watchdogs. Even Annenberg FactCheck, which usually does a better job, dropped the ball. They reference Palin’s original Facebook clarification, but completely leave out the paragraph where she explains her broader meaning. Wouldn’t this be germane in an article about the meaning of the phrase? (Annenberg also leaves out any mention of her clarification in the Hong Kong speech.)

    Palin and many other conservatives made clear at the time that “death panels” was not a criticism of a specific provision in the bill. From the moment she wrote it, “death panels” was a catch all phrase designed to highlight the real danger of putting government in charge of deciding what can be spent on health care. It was the left from the Post to the President which (accidentally or not) conflated this with claims about specific provisions in the bill. Their motive in doing so, i.e. being able to call Palin a liar, is understandable. They are, after all, partisans who wanted to see the bill pass. But one wonders why supposedly independent news organizations like the AP continue to echo this demonstrably false claim right up to today.


    The Press Continues to Lie About Palin’s ‘Death Panels’ Comment - Big Journalism
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