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    Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Likely Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has regularly been warning that Democrats are trying to impose a "secular-socialist" agenda on the country, in part because of a "relentless anti-religious bias."

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    Here's the full quote, via Politico: "I have two grandchildren -- Maggie is 11, Robert is 9. I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American."

    Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler told Hotsheet that Gingrich did not mean to suggest America could become both Islamist and atheist, but simply left the word "or" out of his comments.
    Those radical atheist Islamists are coming to get us!!!

    Ok, so he probably just left out the word "or" like his spokesman says. Still. The main message is: BE AFRAID! EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU!

    Why do people throw around the word secular like it's a bad thing? How the hell does someone simultaneously warn about atheists taking over and then turn around and say that we can't let that OTHER religion take over. So, what, Christianity is the official religion of the US now? Christian values get to dominate our laws? The founding fathers wanted separation of church and state to avoid ANY religion controlling the laws of the nation.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

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    Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam - Political Hotsheet - CBS News



    Those radical atheist Islamists are coming to get us!!!

    Ok, so he probably just left out the word "or" like his spokesman says. Still. The main message is: BE AFRAID! EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU!

    Why do people throw around the word secular like it's a bad thing? How the hell does someone simultaneously warn about atheists taking over and then turn around and say that we can't let that OTHER religion take over. So, what, Christianity is the official religion of the US now? Christian values get to dominate our laws? The founding fathers wanted separation of church and state to avoid ANY religion controlling the laws of the nation.

    Edit: Note to self: do not type things before coffee.
    wait, what? we'll be an atheist country dominated by islamists? that makes no sense.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Yep, makes no sense. Now if he would have said "a secular atheist country or one potentially dominated by Muslims" that would make more sense. He should have just said one day we'll be like England.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    I really hope that Newt gets some flack from his own party for the "atheists aren't real American's" crap. It is unacceptable to marginalize people simply because they don't share your beliefs on religion. Newt has revealed himself a bigot plain and simple.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Newt is another one that Republicans should avoid like the plague as far as a 2012 Presidential nomination goes... unless they want 4 more years of Obama.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I really hope that Newt gets some flack from his own party for the "atheists aren't real American's" crap. It is unacceptable to marginalize people simply because they don't share your beliefs on religion. Newt has revealed himself a bigot plain and simple.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

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    Those radical atheist Islamists are coming to get us!!!

    Ok, so he probably just left out the word "or" like his spokesman says. Still. The main message is: BE AFRAID! EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU!

    Why do people throw around the word secular like it's a bad thing? How the hell does someone simultaneously warn about atheists taking over and then turn around and say that we can't let that OTHER religion take over. So, what, Christianity is the official religion of the US now? Christian values get to dominate our laws? The founding fathers wanted separation of church and state to avoid ANY religion controlling the laws of the nation.

    Edit: Note to self: do not type things before coffee.
    I certainly would not have stated it that way and disagree on numerous fronts, but...

    I think his message was that the particular combination of western secularism mixed with atheism and socialistic ends makes the country vulnerable on a few different fronts. These can include Islamic radicalism being able to take advantage of America's perceived spiritual weakness by having western sympathy, America's traditionally religious character (albeit Christian character) would be undermined by attempts to further minimize Christianity's influence in society and governing affairs (while radical Islam is supposedly being somewhat coddled), and socialism is not really in the American character, but is being pushed by such forces.

    In a convoluted and desperate way, I know where he is coming from..it is just that he spoke far too quickly.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    One thing he is definitely right about. Our liberals have far more respect and tolerance for Muslims than they do for Christians.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    It would be kinda cool if we could appeal to people's loftier aspects, like compassion, courage, or hope... instead of fear and bigotry. Kinda makes me wonder what these republican leaders actually think of their voter base if the only way they think they can appeal to them is by making them afraid of boogeymen.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    One thing he is definitely right about. Our liberals have far more respect and tolerance for Muslims than they do for Christians.
    That's a pretty stupid thing to say.

    There are many Christian liberals.
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