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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

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    Our divorce rates are higher compared to that of other industrialized countries, but I concede your point that they marriage statistics may be different. Nevertheless I believe that it is moronic to attribute divorce rates and unwed pregnancy to secularism.
    What would you attribute it too then? Women's suffrage? Equal Opportunity?
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

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    As America has become more secularized, we have learned that a marriage foolishly entered into need not be a lifelong trap.
    I would say we look at it as ok to foolishly enter a marriage because we can always just get divorced.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Tomayto, tomahto, call it off anyway.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    He is a moron. He has also said that his infidelity was good because made him see Clintons for what it was or something similar. He is a lying piece of **** and always has been.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What would you attribute it too then? Women's suffrage? Equal Opportunity?
    The first thing that comes to my mind is the rise of women in the workplace, and the decrease in importance of mothers as homemakers. That's a stressor that most families didn't have to deal with decades ago.

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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
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    He displayed hypocrisy when he was conducting an extramarital affair at the same time he was attacking Clinton. But there is a huge difference. A couple actually. Newt didn't lie about it and he resigned. Clinton lied and didn't resign.
    Having an affair is a lie. They both lied.

    Maybe we need to find out how many times they mounted their other woman and see which one was the worst.

    I think just once kind of stains you.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The first thing that comes to my mind is the rise of women in the workplace, and the decrease in importance of mothers as homemakers. That's a stressor that most families didn't have to deal with decades ago.

    Why is the Current Divorce Rate Increasing in America? | Divorce Information
    I agree that's a factor....but more a symptom of a greater problem. Marriage is not perceived as "sacred" anymore, by most Americans.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I would say we look at it as ok to foolishly enter a marriage because we can always just get divorced.
    Exactly. It's no longer a situation where if you make a mistake and choose a partner who isn't right, you're stuck with it for the rest of your life. A system with no divorce, it's one strike and you're out. This was especially true for a woman. She has to marry to have financial stability. If she marries a man who later becomes a drunk and beats her, there's nothing she can do about it. Now she can kick his sorry ass to the curb and have another shot. A person you love with all your heart right now, that person can change a lot over the following ten years. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Exactly. It's no longer a situation where if you make a mistake and choose a partner who isn't right, you're stuck with it for the rest of your life. A system with no divorce, it's one strike and you're out. This was especially true for a woman. She has to marry to have financial stability. If she marries a man who later becomes a drunk and beats her, there's nothing she can do about it. Now she can kick his sorry ass to the curb and have another shot. A person you love with all your heart right now, that person can change a lot over the following ten years. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.
    I agree to an extent, but we don't need drive-thru divorces either.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I would say we look at it as ok to foolishly enter a marriage because we can always just get divorced.
    lol mac I know a lot of people who would disagree, especially given the **** a lot of married couples had to go through during this last recession. Divorces aren't fun man.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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