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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Ummm... I never posted a list like that.
    Just to translate for the DP members who only speak 70's sitcom:


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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

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    What is it about good people of faith that bothers you more than those without faith?
    Not all atheists are intolerant, just a few bad apples.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Not stupid at all unless of course yoru a liberal
    Yes, it is stupid. I know many Christian liberals who are liberals because of how they live out their Christian beliefs.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    When Marx said that religion is the opiate of the masses, I find that statement to indeed contain a very, very tiny grain of truth. HOWEVER. I fail to see how religion plays a part in the decline of the middle class and how it benefits the wealthy in American society today.
    Religion has played a part, often, in getting shortchanged people to accept the condition of things, or as a distraction to the trend of things. It can play a part in the continuing decline of the middle classes by getting those classes to either accept things or be distracted from the true cause of their condition. It would benefit the wealthy by helping them to keep things on the path they are currently on.

    I am not blaming religion for where we are at right now. I am arguing against starting to use it to keep us on the present path.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It would be kinda cool if we could appeal to people's loftier aspects, like compassion, courage, or hope... instead of fear and bigotry. Kinda makes me wonder what these republican leaders actually think of their voter base if the only way they think they can appeal to them is by making them afraid of boogeymen.
    Glenn Beck does that , plus, faith, charity, honor, enlightenment etc.
    He's called a crazy fear monger.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    As America has become more secularized, divorce has skyrocketed, unwed motherhood has skyrocketed, addictions of all natures have skyrocketed, personal irresponsibility in general has skyrocketed.

    In fact, I believe the shrinking of the middle class in America can be directly attributed to the breakdown of family values.
    As America has become more secularized, we have learned that a marriage foolishly entered into need not be a lifelong trap. As we no longer force women to rely on a man for economic stability, they have more choice, and the reasons that we expect for marriage apply less and less. Unwed motherhood has not skyrocketed. Doing it on purpose has increased, but now a woman has that option open to her. Addictions have not increased at all. If anything, we tolerate addiction less. There was an entire war dedicated to keeping China addicted to opium. That would never fly now.

    As for personal responsibility... you might be right about that. But it's not because of a lack of morality. It's a lack of the sense that our actions matter. We're becoming obsolete and disposable. The shrinking middle class is because we're getting financially raped by the upper class, and as for family values... I don't even know what that means. We still form families. Families still protect and love each other. Not sure what family values you think are going away.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Glenn Beck does that , plus, faith, charity, honor, enlightenment etc.
    He's called a crazy fear monger.
    Did you just say Glenn Beck appeals to people's "loftier aspects like hope..." etc? Are you nuts?
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Hmm...wonder why all these increasingly secular and nonreligious European countries have lower divorce rates than us.

    Divorce demography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Our divorce rates probably aren't bad. A lot of people don't even bother to get married, even when they have kids.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Our divorce rates probably aren't bad. A lot of people don't even bother to get married, even when they have kids.
    Our divorce rates are higher compared to that of other industrialized countries, but I concede your point that they marriage statistics may be different. Nevertheless I believe that it is moronic to attribute divorce rates and unwed pregnancy to secularism.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Not all atheists are intolerant, just a few bad apples.
    I didn't say that, but most I have met are intolerant. Being "too smart" for religions and looking down their noses at the poor, misguided, ignorant religious folk. The only thing worse is intolerant people of faith.
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