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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Hey, Captain Courtesy...

    Could you repost that list of conservative words Newt suggested all Republicans should use again? I want to know if "secular" was among the list.
    Ummm... I never posted a list like that.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    As America has become more secularized, divorce has skyrocketed, unwed motherhood has skyrocketed, addictions of all natures have skyrocketed, personal irresponsibility in general has skyrocketed.

    In fact, I believe the shrinking of the middle class in America can be directly attributed to the breakdown of family values.
    Religion is the opiate of the masses, and this post is a fine example. Yes, you ignorant middle classes, just take another hit off the religion pipe. Be soothed and realize that the reason your portion of the vast wealth being generated by this economy is shrinking is magically fixable. That the reason the rich are still getting richer, but you are getting poorer is because you're not Christian enough. Fight for christian values, and your place will be restored among the prosperous.

    Pay no attention to those who say that the wealthy have made the economic system more and more skewed toward their advantage. Those who make such claims are the ungodly, who deny that god rewards the godly.

    I think I have it just about right.

    Take another hit off of the religion pipe.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Religion is the opiate of the masses, and this post is a fine example. Yes, you ignorant middle classes, just take another hit off the religion pipe. Be soothed and realize that the reason your portion of the vast wealth being generated by this economy is shrinking is magically fixable. That the reason the rich are still getting richer, but you are getting poorer is because you're not Christian enough. Fight for christian values, and your place will be restored among the prosperous.

    Pay no attention to those who say that the wealthy have made the economic system more and more skewed toward their advantage. Those who make such claims are the ungodly, who deny that god rewards the godly.

    I think I have it just about right.

    Take another hit off of the religion pipe.
    lol Dez channeling his inner Marx, very nice. Complete overreaction haha
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Hey, Captain Courtesy...

    Could you repost that list of conservative words Newt suggested all Republicans should use again? I want to know if "secular" was among the list.
    That was not CC, that was me. I am really offended right now.

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    As you know, one of the key points in the GOPAC tapes is that "language matters." In the video "We Are a Majority," Langauage is listed as akey mechanism of control used by a majority party, along with Agenda, Rules, Attitude and Learning. As the tapes have been used in training sessions across the country and mailed to candidates, we have heard a plaintive plea: "I wish I could speak like Newt."...

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? I served with a couple muslims. Good folks, just don't make the mistake of having them over for dinner and serve pork chops(yes, I did this, all in ignorance).
    For real? LOL Now, that is funny!

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    Ummm... I never posted a list like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That was not CC, that was me. I am really offended right now.
    Oh...and my bad on the Newt conservative lingo list. But thanks for reposting it though Redress.

    Hmmmm...no...secular didn't make the list. Guess Newt needs to add a new word to bolster the Conservative message of fear.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Is there really anyone out there that actually takes Newt Gingrich serious?
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    lol Dez channeling his inner Marx, very nice. Complete overreaction haha
    Marx was wrong about a lot of things, but about the use of religion by the elite to pacify and distract the masses, he was not. I believe, quite strongly, in a mixed, but market dominated economy. At every turn conservatives are attempting to get people to accept the decline of the middle classes, despite the fact that we are more productive than ever. They used to argue that they were trying to save the middle class, through helping the wealthy. Well, we've been helping the wealthy for at least thirty years. It is obvious that the wealthy are doing exceedingly well, but the middle classes? Not so much.

    Now that this is becoming obvious, they must find new arguments. They are trying to get us to accept the condition of things through moralistic philosophies supporting, on the one hand libertarianism, and on the other social conservatism. It is their new shift in tactics, and people like Erod are buying into it.

    There is no reason to accept the market economy as it is currently structured, and I intend to vigorously say so, when I have the time to do it.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Marx was wrong about a lot of things, but about the use of religion by the elite to pacify and distract the masses, he was not. I believe, quite strongly, in a mixed, but market dominated economy. At every turn conservatives are attempting to get people to accept the decline of the middle classes, despite the fact that we are more productive than ever. They used to argue that they were trying to save the middle class, through helping the wealthy. Well, we've been helping the wealthy for at least thirty years. It is obvious that the wealthy are doing exceedingly well, but the middle classes? Not so much.

    Now that this is becoming obvious, they must find new arguments. They are trying to get us to accept the condition of things through moralistic philosophies supporting, on the one hand libertarianism, and on the other social conservatism. It is their new shift in tactics, and people like Erod are buying into it.

    There is no reason to accept the market economy as it is currently structured, and I intend to vigorously say so, when I have the time to do it.
    When Marx said that religion is the opiate of the masses, I find that statement to indeed contain a very, very tiny grain of truth. HOWEVER. I fail to see how religion plays a part in the decline of the middle class and how it benefits the wealthy in American society today.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Religion is the opiate of the masses, and this post is a fine example. Yes, you ignorant middle classes, just take another hit off the religion pipe. Be soothed and realize that the reason your portion of the vast wealth being generated by this economy is shrinking is magically fixable. That the reason the rich are still getting richer, but you are getting poorer is because you're not Christian enough. Fight for christian values, and your place will be restored among the prosperous.

    Pay no attention to those who say that the wealthy have made the economic system more and more skewed toward their advantage. Those who make such claims are the ungodly, who deny that god rewards the godly.

    I think I have it just about right.

    Take another hit off of the religion pipe.
    Some of the Godly are doing quite well, those that have their own TV shows where they are constantly asking for money, then those who want to be Godly send the money in......
    Not sure that is authentic Godliness, tho....
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