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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It would be kinda cool if we could appeal to people's loftier aspects, like compassion, courage, or hope... instead of fear and bigotry. Kinda makes me wonder what these republican leaders actually think of their voter base if the only way they think they can appeal to them is by making them afraid of boogeymen.
    Politicians are smartest when they appeal toward all of our hopes, dreams, and fears. You will see Newt often reaching back into American lore at the same time that you will see him use it to chastise perceived developments that undermine that.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It would be kinda cool if we could appeal to people's loftier aspects, like compassion, courage, or hope... instead of fear and bigotry. Kinda makes me wonder what these republican leaders actually think of their voter base if the only way they think they can appeal to them is by making them afraid of boogeymen.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    As America has become more secularized, divorce has skyrocketed, unwed motherhood has skyrocketed, addictions of all natures have skyrocketed, personal irresponsibility in general has skyrocketed.

    In fact, I believe the shrinking of the middle class in America can be directly attributed to the breakdown of family values.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    That's a pretty stupid thing to say.

    There are many Christian liberals.
    Not stupid at all unless of course yoru a liberal

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Newt is another one that Republicans should avoid like the plague as far as a 2012 Presidential nomination goes... unless they want 4 more years of Obama.
    I'll get this out of the way before dessert is served...

    Newt is very smart and has good ideas, but, he is a polarizing figure. The left demonizes him as much as the right is said to demonize Clinton.

    He displayed hypocrisy when he was conducting an extramarital affair at the same time he was attacking Clinton. But there is a huge difference. A couple actually. Newt didn't lie about it and he resigned. Clinton lied and didn't resign.

    And finally, he'll never really be able to escape that bit of dishonesty and it puts a tarnish on his credibility. He's done well since then, but it will never be forgotten.

    Over and out

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    I think his message was that the particular combination of western secularism mixed with atheism and socialistic ends makes the country vulnerable on a few different fronts. These can include Islamic radicalism being able to take advantage of America's perceived spiritual weakness by having western sympathy, America's traditionally religious character (albeit Christian character) would be undermined by attempts to further minimize Christianity's influence in society and governing affairs (while radical Islam is supposedly being somewhat coddled), and socialism is not really in the American character, but is being pushed by such forces.
    That is bull****. The only thing common about atheists is that they don't believe in gods. Socialism and atheism are unconnected. As far as radical Islam goes, you can find atheists who hate Islam with a passion to apologists to excuse the actions of radicals. There is no excuse for baseless smears on a group because of their non-belief in religion.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It would be kinda cool if we could appeal to people's loftier aspects, like compassion, courage, or hope... instead of fear and bigotry. Kinda makes me wonder what these republican leaders actually think of their voter base if the only way they think they can appeal to them is by making them afraid of boogeymen.
    I dunno, I'm pretty ****ing scary.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    As America has become more secularized, divorce has skyrocketed, unwed motherhood has skyrocketed, addictions of all natures have skyrocketed, personal irresponsibility in general has skyrocketed.

    In fact, I believe the shrinking of the middle class in America can be directly attributed to the breakdown of family values.
    Hmm...wonder why all these increasingly secular and nonreligious European countries have lower divorce rates than us.

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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Hmm...wonder why all these increasingly secular and nonreligious European countries have lower divorce rates than us.

    Divorce demography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Or the bible belt has the highest divorce rate?

    This is just normal stuff folks. For the primaries, you play to the far right(or left if a democrat), then move into the middle for the general election. That is all Newt is doing, playing the the far right.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich warns U.S. at risk of atheism and radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or the bible belt has the highest divorce rate?
    This is just normal stuff folks. For the primaries, you play to the far right(or left if a democrat), then move into the middle for the general election. That is all Newt is doing, playing the the far right.
    I hadn't known that. I do know that males in red states watch more porn on average. Talk about family values...
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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