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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They are trying to manipulate and coerce neutral entities into benefiting them.



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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    We're in my quote did I say you did? still on with this strawman?


    You are trying to make more out of this than there is. Please if you are going to respond to me, respond to what I said, not what you wish I said.
    I am exactly discussing what you said, and continue to say. You think this is being "thuggish", but only because it is different from other boycotts, except it is not. You continually avoid saying whether boycotts are acceptable or not, but do try and draw a difference that does not exist between this and other boycotts. It seems clear to me, based on your words, that your issue is that this is being done by a group you dislike.
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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It's a shake down tactic, just like the mob asking a business for "protection money".
    I think this is a great example of hyperbole.

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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think this is a great example of hyperbole.


    I don't at all. It's coercion..... Not different at all...


    coercion legal definition of coercion. coercion synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.


    "The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. "



    I may support you, but not want to put a sign in my shop so you are going to boycott me anyway? **** them....
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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    "The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. "
    Well, heck if we are going to go with that definition of coercion, capitalism itself is pretty darn coercive, since people threaten to take their business elsewhere all the time for all sorts of reasons. Haggling over price at a car dealership would be coercive ...
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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am exactly discussing what you said, and continue to say. You think this is being "thuggish", but only because it is different from other boycotts, except it is not. You continually avoid saying whether boycotts are acceptable or not, but do try and draw a difference that does not exist between this and other boycotts. It seems clear to me, based on your words, that your issue is that this is being done by a group you dislike.


    Whatever dood, your position is nonsense and based on nothing I have stated and ignores what I have stated. I have no issue with the boycott, i take issue with the coercion. Digsbe puts it correct. they are coercing a neutral entity to support thier cause "or else".

    That's my position no matter which group it is...


    Anything else you made up yourself and does not reflect my position.
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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Well, heck if we are going to go with that definition of coercion, capitalism itself is pretty darn coersive.


    Now that's hyperbole!
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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Now that's hyperbole!
    I don't see it, I apply psychological pressure on the salesman if he wants to make a sale and I want the product upgraded for no additional cost. In fact I may threaten to take my business elsewhere. According to your definition psychological pressure is coercive.

    My greater point was, while I think your definition is true, it has to be qualified to some degree or else we can call anything coercise (I was hoping you would pick up on the subtility and deliberate absurdity), however, in the end, either business is business or it isn't as I have yet to see a good distinction raised by anyone's arguments here.
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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

    Reading further into this story:


    "Parrett said that since the letters were sent, he has received threatening phone calls as well as calls from people supporting the state workers.

    "I've gotten a lot of threatening phone calls," Parrett said."

    Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support - JSOnline



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    "Jim Haney, the outgoing head of Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, a pro-business lobby, said the union effort was appalling. And he said the campaign would backfire.

    "It's kind of like the old protection racket," he said. " 'If you have the right sticker, we won't break your knees.' This is beyond the pale to force a small-business person to choose when they want to stay neutral. But that isn't good enough."



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    Re: Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support

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    Union threatens boycott of any business that doesn't show support - JSOnline



    There are stories on WI radio of business owners trying to stay neutral, but since the won't place the letter in their window they are being boycotted and protestors are in front of their place.

    I think this has a large potential to back fire on the unions and erode some of the support they have. It doesn't seem people take too kindly to brutish behavior and this activity easily draws comparisons to the mob asking for protection money to ensure no one burns down the business.
    I see, so you don't think people have the right to choose who they do business with, without being called unamerican? How Communistic of you.
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