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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    We should all just hope that it never has to come to that, but if the choice is between defending innocents and having allies in Libya, I'd have to argue in favor of defending innocents.

    I think we're being smart in not training an insurgency, I mean look at what happened when we did that in Afghanistan.
    The problem there wasn't that we trained them. It was that we ARMED them. The rebel forces in Libya have picked up various weapons found on the battle field, but many fighters don't know how to use them nor how to implement combat strategies. I have no problem with CIA operatives teaching them how to use the weapons they find or how to implement combat strategies, i.e., how to flank the enemy or use the terran to your advantage. But I WOULD NOT arm them with American weapons. We should have learned that lesson from the Soviet/Afghan war in how that came back to bite us in the butt in our own war over there.

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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    No defence.

    America as usual.

    **** Obama.
    I'm sure there's a declaration of war somewhere in the stack of papers, right?
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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm sure there's a declaration of war somewhere in the stack of papers, right?
    I'm not interested in your partisan Hackery today American.

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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm not interested in your partisan Hackery today American.
    You might want to break out the coffee. I fear it may be a long one.

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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by redohio View Post
    Must not be so "secret" if we're chatting about it. Probably more disinformation.
    It was secret until it was leaked to the press.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    It was secret until it was leaked to the press.
    There are much fewer secrets today. We all need to get used to that, and act accordingly.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...n-rebel-forces

    damn I don't know how to embed a daily show vid.
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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    There are much fewer secrets today. We all need to get used to that, and act accordingly.
    Once again I agree with you Boo.

    It would have been better if this info had not been revealed.

    I wonder what would happen if Bush had said no boots on the ground and it later turned out that was not true?

    Anyone on CNN, ABC, SeeBS, MSNBC or any other lefty calling 0bama a liar today?
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I kind of assumed this was already going on -- don't we want eyes on the ground "gathering intelligence on targets for airstrikes"? Don't we want to take reasonable measures to ensure we're not bombing aspirin factories or otherwise killing civilians?
    Look, Obama couldn't wait to tell us, "No boots on the ground." Why did he even say it? Of course we knew there'd be boots on the ground -for all the reasons you mention. So why lie?? He could have just said.....nothing.
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    Re: President Obama Signs Order Authorizing Covert Operations in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Look, Obama couldn't wait to tell us, "No boots on the ground." Why did he even say it? Of course we knew there'd be boots on the ground -for all the reasons you mention. So why lie?? He could have just said.....nothing.
    0bama was trying to protect the lives of the CIA guys on the ground IMO. I don't fault him for not telling us.

    IMO his "no boots on the ground" comment was about US combat troops. I don't believe 0bama lied.

    Others may disagree.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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