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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

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    It is my professional opinion that now is the time to PANIC!
    Once again proving your "professional opinion" is not to be taken all that seriously.... Come on... such small levels... nothing to panic about .... yet...
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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Whatever the reports say the science doesn't mesh with it. There is no way radiation from Japan would reach the us or Britain or Scotland for that matter. I have no idea what is up with all this drivel reports but anyone with an ounce of knowledge on the subject knows its impossible for it to travel that far.

    All I can say is if the radiation is real it has to have a different source that is closer.
    So, all of the sudden, Russia, the US, Iceland and the UK are all registering SLIGHTLY elevated levels of radiation at just the time the prevailing jet would take such radiation from Japan to these points in the northern hemisphere and it is ALL from local sources??? That makes even less sense...
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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Once again proving your "professional opinion" is not to be taken all that seriously.... Come on... such small levels... nothing to panic about .... yet...
    I think he was being sarcastic

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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, all of the sudden, Russia, the US, Iceland and the UK are all registering SLIGHTLY elevated levels of radiation at just the time the prevailing jet would take such radiation from Japan to these points in the northern hemisphere and it is ALL from local sources??? That makes even less sense...
    First I didn't follow the story, second I have no reason to believe that the radiation is actually from Japan or that it exists at all, and third, local sources makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than radiation not falling in the ocean all the damn way from Japan to the UK. Look it up, radiation doesn't travel that far jet stream or not. The reports are false or from local sources, end of story.
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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Whatever the reports say the science doesn't mesh with it. There is no way radiation from Japan would reach the us or Britain or Scotland for that matter. I have no idea what is up with all this drivel reports but anyone with an ounce of knowledge on the subject knows its impossible for it to travel that far.

    All I can say is if the radiation is real it has to have a different source that is closer.
    It's easy enough to test, you can identify the isotopes using a multichannel analyzer (which many universities and any radiopharmaceutical manufacturer would have) and determine the liklihood of it originating from a light water reactor. If it contains something like I-131, you'd be hard-pressed to find a local source unless someone has been feeding cows thyroid drugs (which I think would be illegal, and very easy to test with a geiger counter).
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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    You can find "traces" of radioactive material in pretty much everything. You get exposed to radiation sleeping with your spouse at night. Brazil nuts expose you to more radiation than living across the street from a nuclear plant. A coal power plant releases more radioactive waste into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant generates.

    The media really needs to stop reporting on completely normal radiation levels.
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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Keep in mind that EVERYTHING has some level of radiation.

    I'd bet walking outside to your mailbox exposes you to more radiation than drinking a glass of that milk.

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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    I find it hard to believe that radioactive Iodine floated all the way around this world, got absorbed by cows, and wasnt fully attinuated by the time it became milk. The fact that the iodine-131 is in the milk is scarier than "natural radiation" in it. The cows would have to be exposed to it from an immediate source. Or someone, somehow stuck it in the milk directly.

    Is the tainted milk directly from Japan or not? If not then somethere here is amiss.
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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The media really needs to stop reporting on completely normal radiation levels.
    Given the choice of a media that reports this stuff vs. a media that decides not to (as if it had some parental role in not upsetting the children), I'll take the former.

    Perhaps the most "responsible" approach would ensure that headlines convey a "present, but negligible risk" message.

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    Re: Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I find it hard to believe that radioactive Iodine floated all the way around this world, got absorbed by cows, and wasnt fully attinuated by the time it became milk. The fact that the iodine-131 is in the milk is scarier than "natural radiation" in it. The cows would have to be exposed to it from an immediate source. Or someone, somehow stuck it in the milk directly.

    Is the tainted milk directly from Japan or not? If not then somethere here is amiss.
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    No, we of course would never import milk from Japan - especially under the present circumstances.

    Iodine need not "float" to us. Any iodine introduced into the oceans is quickly snatched up by microorganisms; algae will consume various iodine compounds and expel methyl iodide gas that will enter the atmosphere. From there, it goes where the wind takes it. Sunlight breaks it down and it can go through all sorts of transformations in the atmosphere - eventually it will end up on (mostly coastal) land, perhaps with the morning drizzle. This is a well-studied process.

    If you're looking for a conspiracy theory - I CAN tell you that there are only a few dietary sources of iodine. The aforementioned algae ("seaweed") is the primary source, but it can come from most seafood, and also from plants grown in iodine rich soil (from the process described above).

    Dairy products also tend to contain significant amounts of iodine - at least in this country. Significant levels of iodine don't naturally occur in milk, and the presence of higher concentrations in our milk, yogurt, and cheese is usually credited to the use of iodine-based cleansers used on the udders (yum!) and iodine sprayed on feed to reduce the risk of infection.

    So... while I don't think its likely there's an "immediate source" -- if there was, it seems that would be the likely mechanism: tainted sanitizer or tainted feed additives.

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