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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I think you misread the 2009 quote: it is actually very consistent with the president's speech last night; and, of course, at no time in 2009 was Barack Obama a candidate: he was either president or president-elect.

    The point is that the president had established the guidelines for military intervention on the basis of “humanitarian grounds” over a year ago; indeed announced them at the Nobel Peace Price acceptance ceremony and, now, case in point: a broad military coalition has acted on a United Nations Security Council resolution and intervened in Libya on humanitarian grounds. I think it is quite impressive.


    His speech was full of crap.

    "Oh we r turning this over to nato and taking a back seat...."


    bull****, we ARE NATO.... and no we wont be commanded by other nato commanders.


    "Our military mission is narrowly focused on saving lives."

    Really Mr. President, is that why we are telling the rebels to wait while we soften some targets for them? we are helping them advance.




    here is another Obama quote from a while back:


    "The president does not have the power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation," he told The Boston Globe in 2007 in his presidential campaign. "History has shown us time and again ... that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the legislative branch." -Barack Obama


    So really, you think he's being consistent here?
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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Rachel Maddow pointed out last night's presidential address echoes one he made late in his first year in office.

    “More and more, we all confront difficult questions about how to prevent the slaughter of civilians by their own government, or to stop a civil war whose violence and suffering can engulf an entire region.

    “I believe that force can be justified on humanitarian grounds, as it was in the Balkans, or in other places that have been scarred by war. Inaction tears at our conscience and can lead to more costly intervention later. That's why all responsible nations must embrace the role that militaries with a clear mandate can play to keep the peace.

    “America's commitment to global security will never waver. But in a world in which threats are more diffuse, and missions more complex, America cannot act alone. America alone cannot secure the peace.”


    — Barack H. Obama, Remarks by the President at the Acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, December 10, 2009

    It is striking how that speech over a year ago laid the foundations for this month's intervention in Libya.
    Well that'll make lots of new government jobs. Obama did recommend overseas humanitarian work to college students last year. And he did talk about a new military as big and as well funded as the existing military.

    Here's a project list to start with. Better get cracking.

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    Papua New Guinea
    Tajikistan
    Cameroon
    Côte d'Ivoire
    Haiti
    Iran
    Libya
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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is a big difference. In Iraq, The US did the heavy lifting, to the tune of a trillion dollars. In Libya, we stepped into the leadership for a few days, and are now functioning only as support for NATO, which are now the main load bearers.
    Name these leaders... (hint, ze r Americanos!)



    However, I do NOT believe that we had any business getting involved with Libya, and am opposed to our involvement there. This is consistent with my belief that we should not have gone into Iraq either, and I was also opposed to that. However, I did support the Afghan war, because it was the nation that provided a base of operations, and also a shelter, to those who attacked us on 9/11, and I saw war there as vital to US interests.

    I don't know why lybia is a yes, and all these other places are a no.
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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is a big difference. In Iraq, The US did the heavy lifting, to the tune of a trillion dollars. In Libya, we stepped into the leadership for a few days, and are now functioning only as support for NATO, which are now the main load bearers.

    However, I do NOT believe that we had any business getting involved with Libya, and am opposed to our involvement there. This is consistent with my belief that we should not have gone into Iraq either, and I was also opposed to that. However, I did support the Afghan war, because it was the nation that provided a base of operations, and also a shelter, to those who attacked us on 9/11, and I saw war there as vital to US interests.
    Sorry to tell you this, but WE are NATO.

    and... we have already spent $550 million in Libya.

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    President Obama:

    Pretty strange departure from twenty years of spiritual guidance I'd say.
    Boy, it's almost like President Obama is a separate person who actually has managed to form his own opinion. Weird.
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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

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    Name these leaders... (hint, ze r Americanos!)





    I don't know why lybia is a yes, and all these other places are a no.
    Um.. Where in my post did I say Libya was a yes? Nowhere. I clearly said Libya was a no.
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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Boy, it's almost like President Obama is a separate person who actually has managed to form his own opinion. Weird.
    Yes, he's managed to form an opinion that's in opposition to his earlier opinion. Truly impressive.
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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Boy, it's almost like President Obama is a separate person who actually has managed to form his own opinion. Weird.

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Um.. Where in my post did I say Libya was a yes? Nowhere. I clearly said Libya was a no.


    I was talking about The O man....
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