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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    today:

    President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces seeking to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, government officials told Reuters on Wednesday.

    Obama signed the order, known as a presidential "finding", within the last two or three weeks, according to four U.S. government sources familiar with the matter.
    Exclusive: Obama authorizes secret support for Libya rebels | Reuters

    mission creep, anyone?

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Here we go, our tax dollars at work helping the handsome, noble Mujahideen to take out the "bad" guys. Never ending supply of bad guys over there.

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    The jihadi element that's been reported within the Libyan rebels is indeed a concern.

    I have also read that reports that it's about 40 guys but who really knows. For me that's 40 too many.

    He left jihadis out of the speech and hopefully that's a diplomatic concession for Arab support.

    If jihadis win this thing it will be bad for all the coalition nations involved and especially the US and 0bama.

    Not to mention the Libyan people.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the neocons are ecstatic, congrats

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    I explained earlier that there are differences of opinion.
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    Why are we in Libya again? I thought it was about a No Fly zone, but now we are providing air support and Obama has signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces

    This whole thing is retarded.

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    When you have legitimate arguments against someone and then mix it in with partisan rhetoric, the legitimate arguments kind of get lost in the noise.
    If the Dems foul up the Reps cheer...

    If the Reps fowl up the Dems cheer...

    It's not about policies, bills, economy, the National Debt, or the people. It's about winning at any cost, more like a football game than national interests.

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    BILL KRISTOL: He came to me to make sure I was supporting his sound policies. Of course, since his sound policies are more like the policies people like me have been advocating for quite a while, I’m happy to support them. He’s a born-again neo-con."
    RealClearPolitics - Video - Bill Kristol: Obama Is A "Born-Again Neo-Con"

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    I don't think so. Many times, Robert Kagan, John Podhoretz, and William Kristol typically overemphasize specific decisions to make neoconservative positions immediately relevant and accepted.
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    Host Greg Gutfeld asked Kristol how he felt about Obama coming to him for help (reportedly the president had met with him and others prior to his Monday night address).

    He didnt come to me for help, of course, Kristol said. Im not going to acknowledge that. He came to me to make sure I was supporting his sound policies. Of course, since his sound policies are more like the policies people like me have been advocating for quite a while, Im happy to support them. Hes a born-again neo-con.

    Throughout 2007 and 2008 in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama ran as the anti-war candidate. But Obama has taken on different stripes with this gesture, Kristol joked.

    Whats the joke they told me if I voted for McCain, wed be going to war in a third Muslim country? Kristol said. I voted for McCain and were doing it.
    Bill Kristol Obama Libya | Bill Kristol declares Obama 'a born-again neo-con' days after consulting with him on Libya policy | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

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    Re: The President's Speech on Libya

    obama, october, 2002:

    “Now, let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein,” said Obama in his speech. “He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied U.N. resolutions, thwarted U.N. inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.”

    "... After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again," said Obama. "I don't oppose all wars. ... What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne."

    Obama argued that deposing Saddam militarily was not necessary, because Iraq posed no “direct threat” to the United States. “But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military is a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history."
    Obama in 2002: Toppling Brutal Dictator a Dumb War

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