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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    China ain't investing **** in its people if you look at the big picture. They are investing in themselves. Sitting down and actually learning. Person discipline, personal motivation to escape the **** holes they live in.

    We build huge schools, have wasteful classes on BS, and the Chinese knuckle down in crap schools.

    I've seen tests given to 8th grade kids in the late 1890's America, and my bet is kids today don't graduate with the knowledge they were EXPECTED to know back then at age 13. Stuff they learned in shacks for schools, and many ages of students in one room.

    We don't need to invest $$$$$$$$$$, we already "invest" too much. We need to be tougher, demand more, and cut out the crap to reduce our investment. How much does it cost to teach a kid math, science, English, geography and history?

    We need a renaissance of discipline and morality. That is why they're going to be kicking our asses... our teachers, parents and students are too lazy, too soft... they're pussies, and eventually we're gonna be ****ed because of it. It's no surprise immigrants are 400% likely to become millionaires here... they see opportunity everywhere, and too many natives are modeled after the Marxist Bitcher in Chief Obama... whine, whine, whine...

    We have the best post-secondary schools, and that's because they're private. It's time to get rid of the NEA, and the teacher's union should be busted. That'd be a good start.

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    You know. I was about to like your post til you started the partisan crap.

    And it's pretty rich for someone who takes every single opportunity (including this one) to bitch about Obama to talk about others whining.

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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Actually, I have given you a pretty basic argument in international law indicating that China did in fact sign a treaty that acknowledged Taiwan as Chinese territory. You just refuse to acknowledge it as such because it would destroy your entire argument.
    Still waiting for this nonexistant treaty to be cited...
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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Still waiting for this nonexistant treaty to be cited...
    Those crickets are pretty loud Demon of Light...

    Though, to be fair, it is hard to cite a non-existant treaty...
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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    My colleague in Toronto is from mainland China, and he said that to complete most undergraduate degrees you must write a thesis to contribute to a major journal. If you do not achieve peer reviewed status, you do not get your degree.

    Their facilities may be slightly lagging behind ours, but their intellect is not. It's only a matter of time before what they have is equal to or greater than what we have. Their politics are unified and we are still bickering about things like abortion and corporate handouts. We're no match and our government doesn't have the stones to do anything about it.

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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    My colleague in Toronto is from mainland China, and he said that to complete most undergraduate degrees you must write a thesis to contribute to a major journal. If you do not achieve peer reviewed status, you do not get your degree.

    Their facilities may be slightly lagging behind ours, but their intellect is not. It's only a matter of time before what they have is equal to or greater than what we have. Their politics are unified and we are still bickering about things like abortion and corporate handouts. We're no match and our government doesn't have the stones to do anything about it.
    I can tell you that this is an exaggeration at best. I taught at a university when I resided in China and not one of my students were required to write such a paper to receive their degrees.
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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I can tell you that this is an exaggeration at best. I taught at a university when I resided in China and not one of my students were required to write such a paper to receive their degrees.
    Hrmm is that a logical fallacy?

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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Hrmm is that a logical fallacy?
    If MOST students were required to write a paper to be published in a journal in order to get a degree, it would stand to reason that at least one of my students (who came from various departments from the flagship university of the province) would have had to write such a paper. Not one did. I don't doubt that some do, but most? I seriously doubt it.
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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If MOST students were required to write a paper to be published in a journal in order to get a degree, it would stand to reason that at least one of my students (who came from various departments from the flagship university of the province) would have had to write such a paper.
    Not at all, actually. It may be a different school of somesort...

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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Not at all, actually. It may be a different school of somesort...
    I think you need to read Temporal's post a little more closely...
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    Re: China 'to overtake US on science' in two years

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    China ain't investing **** in its people if you look at the big picture. They are investing in themselves. Sitting down and actually learning. Person discipline, personal motivation to escape the **** holes they live in.

    We build huge schools, have wasteful classes on BS, and the Chinese knuckle down in crap schools.

    I've seen tests given to 8th grade kids in the late 1890's America, and my bet is kids today don't graduate with the knowledge they were EXPECTED to know back then at age 13. Stuff they learned in shacks for schools, and many ages of students in one room.

    We don't need to invest $$$$$$$$$$, we already "invest" too much. We need to be tougher, demand more, and cut out the crap to reduce our investment. How much does it cost to teach a kid math, science, English, geography and history?

    We need a renaissance of discipline and morality. That is why they're going to be kicking our asses... our teachers, parents and students are too lazy, too soft... they're pussies, and eventually we're gonna be ****ed because of it. It's no surprise immigrants are 400% likely to become millionaires here... they see opportunity everywhere, and too many natives are modeled after the Marxist Bitcher in Chief Obama... whine, whine, whine...

    We have the best post-secondary schools, and that's because they're private. It's time to get rid of the NEA, and the teacher's union should be busted. That'd be a good start.

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    I hope your saying that same spiel when China overtakes the US as the world's #1 economy and the US cuts social programs to clear its debt.
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