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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Cause North America was entirely uninhabited before the Europeans got here.
    No cities existed here before the Declaration of Independence
    Irony is not your strong suit. Fact is, compared to Europe, the US oldest continuously occupied "city" is from 1559. Our cities are from before Christ was born,.... Athens is from 4000 years before Christ, Lisbon 1200 BC, Cadiz 1100 BC and so on.

    Add to that the amount of history in the ground in general due to more occupation in Europe than in North America, and that means you have far more chance of finding ancient remains in the ground in Europe than in the US. And this point makes it horrifying to see highways next to the Alamo, a true American historical place. It would be like plowing up the Versailles gardens for a highway in my opinion.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Irony is not your strong suit. Fact is, compared to Europe, the US oldest continuously occupied "city" is from 1559.
    FWIW, which is not much, you're off by almost six-hundred years.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Are the sites of these old cities still in use or were the modern settlements built elsewhere making it unlikely old ruins will be found in a modern US city?
    Yes and no
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    FWIW, which is not much, you're off by almost six-hundred years.
    A village of around 2,000 doesn't really class as a city.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    FWIW, which is not much, you're off by almost six-hundred years.
    Am I? We are talking about CONTINUOUS inhabited in the USA. I admit though that the date was off.. by 6 years... too early.

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    Founded in 1565 by Spanish explorer and admiral Pedro Menéndez de Avilés, it is the oldest continuously occupied European-established city and port in the continental United States.
    You were saying?
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    A village of around 2,000 doesn't really class as a city.

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    LOL yea, if we start categorising areas of 2000 people as cities, then the number of cities will explode world wide

    Not to mention.. 1 "city" compared to the amount in Europe? yea... totally comparable... I raise him Rome, Athens, Cadiz, London, Paris and so on and so on.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Seriously.. you have gone from "it is a horrible car because it is unsafe according to experts" to "not for me" when you find out that it not only passed safety checks but did well in them.

    Face it, you opinion is not based on facts but based on one or two videos that look bad in your eyes. Go drive your truck that explodes on impact or/and flips over at medium speeds in a corner.
    Did you not watch the two videos I posted? That is fact.

    The car will be thrown when another car hits it causing more damage to the occupents.

    No way to spin that.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Rough translation: "I don't like small cars and I don't like the look of this one, so crash test results be damned."
    Whatch the videos I posted. Crash results be damned indeed. They show the car being thrown backwards after the initial crash. Are you saying that is an acceptable crash test to you?

    What if another car is coming in the next lane? That car will hit the Smart and throw it some more.

    Show me a crash test that the car did well.

    By the way I drive a VW Crossfox. It is a small car but there are no crash tests for it as it is made in Brazil and sold in Brazil and Mexico. There is nobody to do the crash test. I don't know how it will survive, but I do know how the Smart does in crashes. Just too dangerous.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Whatch the videos I posted. Crash results be damned indeed. They show the car being thrown backwards after the initial crash. Are you saying that is an acceptable crash test to you?
    I watched it. The testers found it acceptable. I watched this one too...



    ... and, to quote the tester,
    "The Smart does a good job in protecting its passengers."

    If you look at any other crash test (just check them out in YT) you'll see that none of them maintain the vehicle in the same lane of traffic they are already in.
    Show me a crash test that the car did well.
    I just did.

    By the way I drive a VW Crossfox. It is a small car but there are no crash tests for it as it is made in Brazil and sold in Brazil and Mexico. There is nobody to do the crash test. I don't know how it will survive, but I do know how the Smart does in crashes. Just too dangerous.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Did you not watch the two videos I posted? That is fact.

    The car will be thrown when another car hits it causing more damage to the occupents.

    No way to spin that.
    Again, so what. Like it or not, it passed all safety checks and has better ratings than most trucks...
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