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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

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    That's pretty cool.
    This test shows a much better picture. Hitting a brick wall at 70mph and no damage to potential occupants.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    If the cars aren't running on petrol/diesel, then they're not banned. And there's no way to stop cars emitting CO2 if they're burning hydrocarbons.
    And batteries will never work in cars, right??

    Saying batteries will never be a feasible option for cars is no different than saying that vehicles burning hydrocarbons will always emit CO2.

    Fact is, we don't know what advances in either technology will be made over the next 50 years.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And batteries will never work in cars, right??

    Saying batteries will never be a feasible option for cars is no different than saying that vehicles burning hydrocarbons will always emit CO2.

    Fact is, we don't know what advances in either technology will be made over the next 50 years.
    Except that hydrocarbons always emit CO2 upon combustion, it's unavoidable chemistry.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Except that hydrocarbons always emit CO2 upon combustion, it's unavoidable chemistry.
    That's true, but it doesn't mean the CO2 will be exhausted into the air does it??

    It's not possible that something will be invented that absorbs, eats, destroys the CO2 emissions ???

    I've been reading about experiments that found bacteria which manufacture hydrocarbons from CO2. Point is, none of us have a clue what the world will be like in 2050. Actually, I believe that well before 2050, the theory that CO2 is changing the climate will be laughed at.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    You go with resolving the problem you know you have. At the present state of development of the IC engine there is no way to avoid CO2 emissions, and diesel poses an extra problem with particulates, so you plan for that. If a giant finger points out of the sky and zaps a solution in the intervening years, well and good. If not, go with plan "A". It not only reduces emissions but makes the city centre a much healthier place to live and work.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You go with resolving the problem you know you have. At the present state of development of the IC engine there is no way to avoid CO2 emissions, and diesel poses an extra problem with particulates, so you plan for that. If a giant finger points out of the sky and zaps a solution in the intervening years, well and good. If not, go with plan "A". It not only reduces emissions but makes the city centre a much healthier place to live and work.
    And, as I stated, the present state of the development of batteries makes them unsuitable as a long-term source of transportation power. Neither batteries nor the elimination of CO2 emissions from internal combustion engines will solve our problems today, but in 40 years, hopefully progress will be made in both, one, or some entirely different fix.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Its like they don't even have individual countries anymore, its just the EU.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Its like they don't even have individual countries anymore, its just the EU.
    Eh? It's like they don't have individual states any more, it's just the USA.
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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Wow, the Top Gear guys are really going to be pissed about this.
    That is their whole show.
    If they're still around in 2050, they can do top gear about the non-"conventionally fueled cars" that have replaced the "petrol and diesel-driven cars and lorries".
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, is it practical?
    Prob'ly have a better idea as to it's practicality in 2035 or 2040 when we are not trying to peer quite so far into the future.
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    I mean, if it were so awesome, the government wouldn't have to mandate it's use. Yes?
    I think that they were mandating standards. Which is a little different. Makes me think of railroad track gauge, number of prong-holes in an electrical outlet, etc

    But, also and besides, there are many good ideas that are also backed up by laws. Just because there's a law for something, doesn't mean that the something is a bad idea.
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