Page 12 of 19 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast
Results 111 to 120 of 182

Thread: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

  1. #111
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I think you're absolutely right. I'd go further, I not only believe it should be doable, I believe that by 2050 such batteries will be available and the idea of nasty, dirty internal combustion engines will be purely of historical interest, just as steam power is to us now. I look forward to buying a new electric coupé for my 88th birthday that year.
    Battery tech is not going to go anywhere important. The tech is pretty much past the point where the return is at its top. This just gets continued proven the longer this idiocy with electronic cars continues.

    Lets all remember the law of diminishing returns.
    Last edited by Henrin; 03-31-11 at 05:04 AM.

  2. #112
    Global Moderator
    Bodhidarma approves bigly
    Andalublue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Granada, España
    Last Seen
    12-16-17 @ 01:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    26,111

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Battery tech is not going to go anywhere important. The tech is pretty much past the point where the return is at its top. This just gets continued proven the longer this idiocy with electronic cars continues.

    Lets all remember the law of diminishing returns.
    So, what do you think we'll be using to power our vehicles in 2050? I'm pretty convinced it won't be the ICE.
    "The crisis will end when fear changes sides" - Pablo Iglesias Turrión

    "Austerity is used as a cover to reconfigure society and increase inequality and injustice." - Jeremy Corbyn

  3. #113
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Last Seen
    01-03-16 @ 02:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,761

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Cars will be banned from London and all other cities across Europe under a draconian EU masterplan to cut CO2 emissions by 60 per cent over the next 40 years. The plan also envisages an end to cheap holiday flights from Britain to southern Europe with a target that over 50 per cent of all journeys above 186 miles should be by rail.

    Top of the EU's list to cut climate change emissions is a target of "zero" for the number of petrol and diesel-driven cars and lorries in the EU's future cities.

    Siim Kallas, the EU transport commission, insisted that Brussels directives and new taxation of fuel would be used to force people out of their cars and onto "alternative" means of transport.

    "That means no more conventionally fuelled cars in our city centres," he said. "Action will follow, legislation, real action to change behaviour."


    EU to ban cars from cities by 2050 - Telegraph

    You Greenies....just aren't to bright.

    Back to the horse and bggy days for you, leave the rest of us alone.
    *Nevermind the captions added by the youtube uploader*


    The same government tied organization that brought you the "cut global warming or we push the 'kill you' button. No pressure" advertisement.

    The people behind this agenda are showing their colors as true tyrants that want to create a socialist / communist controlled society.

  4. #114
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Sadly, many will love the image that video gives off.

    They raised the price of cars so only the rich can have them but don't worry you have electronic bikes? Sounds wonderful. Do they even realize what they said there or really anywhere else in the video?

  5. #115
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I love your fat hate you just have to put in your posts.
    Actually, it's the U.S. that Pete hates.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





  6. #116
    Sage
    PeteEU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,092

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Actually, it's the U.S. that Pete hates.
    There you would be wrong. What I hate are hypocrites, which in this case are people complaining about high gas prices when they and their own politicians not only are complicit in the high prices but have done nothing the last 40 years to negate a price rise that they knew would come ... aka higher mileage per gallon.
    PeteEU

  7. #117
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    dimensionally transcendental
    Last Seen
    08-15-11 @ 04:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    7,153

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue
    I think you're absolutely right. I'd go further, I not only believe it should be doable, I believe that by 2050 such batteries will be available and the idea of nasty, dirty internal combustion engines will be purely of historical interest, just as steam power is to us now. I look forward to buying a new electric coupé for my 88th birthday that year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Battery tech is not going to go anywhere important. The tech is pretty much past the point where the return is at its top. This just gets continued proven the longer this idiocy with electronic cars continues.

    Lets all remember the law of diminishing returns.
    The folks at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign might beg to differ with you on that...

    New battery technology may allow for complete recharging within minutes


    "This system that we have gives you capacitor-like power with battery-like energy," said U Illinois' Paul Braun, a professor of materials science and engineering. "Most capacitors store very little energy. They can release it very fast, but they can't hold much. Most batteries store a reasonably large amount of energy, but they can't provide or receive energy rapidly. This does both."

    The speed at which conventional batteries are able to charge or discharge can be dramatically increased by changing the form of their active material into a thin film, but such films have typically lacked the volume to be able to store a significant amount of energy. In the case of Braun's batteries, however, that thin film has been formed into a three-dimensional structure, thus increasing its storage capacity.

    Batteries equipped with the 3D film have been demonstrated to work normally in electrical devices, while being able to charge and discharge 10 to 100 times faster than their conventional counterparts.
    The implications for electric vehicles are particularly exciting. "If you had the ability to charge rapidly, instead of taking hours to charge the vehicle you could potentially have vehicles that would charge in similar times as needed to refuel a car with gasoline," Braun said. "If you had five-minute charge capability, you would think of this the same way you do an internal combustion engine. You would just pull up to a charging station and fill up."

    Braun and his team believe that the technology could be used not only for making electric cars more viable, but also for allowing phones or laptops to be able to recharge in seconds or minutes. It could also result in high-power lasers or defibrillators that don't need to warm up before or between pulses.

  8. #118
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    48,013

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Electric Cars have at best been a red herring for those who INSIST that we are destroying our environment.
    A red herring from what? And you didn't answer the question if you think they don't exist or at the very least aren't usable?

    They are not selling, they won't because people don't want them.......
    Which is a rather useless statement when you leave it so open ended. Do they not want them because they have a short range? Do they not want them because they're expensive? Do they not want them due to how they look? Do they not want them due to horsepower? Do they not want them because its inconvinent to charge? Do they not want them because they just hate the idea of owning electric? Do they not want them because they're partisan hacks that would rather ignore something that's viable simply because they fear it'll be used politically?

    Just saying "people don't want them" is a worthless comment because it doesn't actually tell you any relevant information.

    1) Do you own an electric car?
    No, though I'm extremely tempted to purchase a Volt type situation once I have a house with a garage. It'd be ideal for my living situation.

    2) Do you support Gov regulation mandating what an American can, or can't drive?
    To a certain degree, yes. For example, I'm okay with safety inspections being mandated. That said, I do think its ridiculous to mandate we move away from oil driven cars. That said, as battery technology continues to improve and become more cost effective I think the economy will move that way on its own.

  9. #119
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    48,013

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There you would be wrong. What I hate are hypocrites, which in this case are people complaining about high gas prices when they and their own politicians not only are complicit in the high prices but have done nothing the last 40 years to negate a price rise that they knew would come ... aka higher mileage per gallon.
    Mandating an even higher MPG would not decrease but increase the cost of gas. Simple supply and demand. If the American public by and large started using significantly less oil than the logical reaction would be to increase the cost of oil so that you're making a similar profit despite the lower consumption.

  10. #120
    Sage
    Gill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    The Derby City
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 10:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    8,686

    Re: EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There you would be wrong. What I hate are hypocrites, which in this case are people complaining about high gas prices when they and their own politicians not only are complicit in the high prices but have done nothing the last 40 years to negate a price rise that they knew would come ... aka higher mileage per gallon.
    Yeah right.... That's why you bash the U.S. and Americans in 99.9% of your posts.

    By the way... how's Spain's unemployment rate and budget deficit ???

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





Page 12 of 19 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •