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Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

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(CNN) -- Dr. Abdulmonem Hresha knows first hand how Moammar Gadhafi's regime works. He says the seeds of his opposition were sown when he was age 10.
He and classmates were taken to witness the public execution of a political opponent of Gadhafi.
"They hung him up in front of thousands of small kids," Hresha said. "He did that to scare people."
Hresha, who taught physics at Tripoli University, later fled to Canada.
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The prominent member of the Muslim Brotherhood now lives in London, and anticipates the group could become an important player in a post-Gadhafi environment.
As in Egypt and Tunisia, the Brotherhood in Libya has been energized by the sudden upheaval sweeping the Arab world.

Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize - CNN.com


I would love to name this thread 'Obama openly aids America's enemies', The Muslim Brotherhood seems to have its hand in most if not all of these supposed spontaneous uprisings in the ME, and as one Egyptian put it:

Now that Mubarak will be out of the picture in the near future, Israel and the United States are worried about a government controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.

“All of us hate Israel,” said Muhammad, who is a lecture assistant in the engineering faculty at a government university in Cairo. “Israel is the best friend for Mubarak, they said clearly that he’s strategic for them.”

But he cautioned that Egypt needed to concentrate on its internal politics before dealing with the problem of Israel.

“Regarding Israel, Egypt has a peace agreement with Israel and any new government should respect that agreement,” Muhammad said. “However, if the government wanted to change that agreement, it has the right after taking the opinion of the people. No agreement is eternal.”

Muslim Brotherhood: With Israel, no agreement is eternal

So what are the stated goals of MB toward Israel?

A political leader of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood Thursday called on any government that replaces Hosni Mubarak’s regime to withdraw from the 32-year-old peace treaty with Israel.

“After President Mubarak steps down and a provisional government is formed, there is a need to dissolve the peace treaty with Israel,” Rashad al-Bayoumi, a deputy leader of the outlawed movement, said on Japan’s NHTV.

The interview contrasted with earlier signals from the group. On Feb. 1, Mahmoud Ezzat, a spokesman for the brothers, told CBS News that his organization “will respect the peace treaty with Israel as long as Israel shows real progress on improving the lot of the Palestinians.”

Muslim Brotherhood seeks end to Israel treaty - Washington Times

Well, there you have it....MB taking over means that once again Israel will be attacked from all sides. And will Obama stand with them? or against Israel? You tell me?

j-mac
 
Bush aided our enemies forn years. I remember how much you criticised him for doing so. You were tough on him to be sure. :coffeepap
 
Bush aided our enemies forn years. I remember how much you criticised him for doing so. You were tough on him to be sure. :coffeepap

If you chose to live in the past just so you can deflect from this President's buffoonish mistakes then so be it...But it is real sad Joe.


j-mac
 
If you chose to live in the past just so you can deflect from this President's buffoonish mistakes then so be it...But it is real sad Joe.


j-mac

Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. those who think Bush was spreading freedom and Obama is helping terrorist are delusional. Both have in one way or another helped our enemies, both have not seen that force is less help then they would like it to be. I merely hope you will see your own partisanship, and willing suspension of disbelief.

:coffeepap
 
I must be a moron. I see these issues as a Corporate grab. Buy your politician, get him to get military control over your resource and capitalize. Keep in mind that Corporate means fictitious entities that do not live and breathe, ergo concerns over pollution, temperature, breathing air, etc. are not a problem, nor even a minor concern. Nor is patriotism as the Corporate allegiance is to strong currnecy.
 
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. those who think Bush was spreading freedom and Obama is helping terrorist are delusional. Both have in one way or another helped our enemies, both have not seen that force is less help then they would like it to be. I merely hope you will see your own partisanship, and willing suspension of disbelief.

:coffeepap

Tell me how Hillary's explanation yesterday on the talk circut, was any different than that of the Bush era?

j-mac
 
I must be a moron. I see these issues as a Corporate grab. Buy your politician, get him to get military control over your resource and capitalize. Keep in mind that Corporate means fictitious entities that do not live and breathe, ergo concerns over pollution, temperature, breathing air, etc. are not a problem, nor even a minor concern. Nor is patriotism as the Corporate allegiance is to strong currnecy.

Corporate grab? Ok, so what mom and pop produce what is needed at this time?

j-mac
 
Tell me how Hillary's explanation yesterday on the talk circut, was any different than that of the Bush era?

j-mac

I didn't hear it, but who said it was? Read what I wrote.

As for her, link and I'll read it.
 
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. those who think Bush was spreading freedom and Obama is helping terrorist are delusional. Both have in one way or another helped our enemies, both have not seen that force is less help then they would like it to be. I merely hope you will see your own partisanship, and willing suspension of disbelief.

:coffeepap

I notice you neglect to say Clinton. Why is that?
 
Of course Obama isn't trying to install the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Libya. What he *is* doing, however, is continuing the great American tradition of showing reckless disregard for who we pick as our allies in foreign conflicts in which we shouldn't be involved at all. I'm sure it will come back to bite us in the ass in a few years.
 
I notice you neglect to say Clinton. Why is that?

You have a problem with the pronoun her? In this case it refers to Clinton. I have no idea what problem you could possibly have.
 
Bush aided our enemies forn years. I remember how much you criticised him for doing so. You were tough on him to be sure. :coffeepap

Switching the topic, Ignoring the facts, next I guess you'll name call.
 
Bush aided our enemies forn years. I remember how much you criticised him for doing so. You were tough on him to be sure. :coffeepap

MB's leadership are smiling in anticipation of further civil unrest in the Middle East. Syria and Yemen are on the hit list as well as Libya when the fighting dies down.

If Libya was to go from Omar Gaddaffi's regime to a populist Islamic council in a few short months or years, that would be a backwards step for the Libyans and they may as well have stuck with the devil they knew.

Thank Obama and his co horts. The complete bungling by the amateurs in Washington
 
If you chose to live in the past just so you can deflect from this President's buffoonish mistakes then so be it...But it is real sad Joe.


j-mac

I don't believe it's about living in the past. He was merely pointing out your hypocrisy.
 
Of course Obama isn't trying to install the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Libya. What he *is* doing, however, is continuing the great American tradition of showing reckless disregard for who we pick as our allies in foreign conflicts in which we shouldn't be involved at all. I'm sure it will come back to bite us in the ass in a few years.

Obama shows he supports Muslim terrorists
 
I don't believe it's about living in the past. He was merely pointing out your hypocrisy.


Ah bull, It was merely more of the Bush, Bush, Bush crap....You libs use this to try and deflect the failure that you all put in the WH.....

j-mac
 
You have a problem with the pronoun her? In this case it refers to Clinton. I have no idea what problem you could possibly have.

We are talking Presidents you know that. You are avoiding talking about Clinton.
 
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MB's leadership are smiling in anticipation of further civil unrest in the Middle East. Syria and Yemen are on the hit list as well as Libya when the fighting dies down.

If Libya was to go from Omar Gaddaffi's regime to a populist Islamic council in a few short months or years, that would be a backwards step for the Libyans and they may as well have stuck with the devil they knew.

Thank Obama and his co horts. The complete bungling by the amateurs in Washington

You thoughts aside, partisan as they sound, you should have read that I fault both. I don't think removing Gaddaffi (whatever spelling we use) assures anything. Like Iraq and Afghanistan, and even Egypt, things could get worse. And it could get so no matter what we do. However, when you only recognize these conerns in the aprty you don't like, but not your own, that is hypocracy.
 
We are talking Presidents you know that. You are avoiding talking about Clinton.

Actually, didn't j say Hillary? If not, so. I have no problem talking Clinton. What do you want to talk about concerning wild Bill?
 
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