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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, just because it isn't what you want said doesn't mean you shouldn't respond to what was actually said.
    No, it's just that as you start to cloud your own words lately I could care less what it is that you are trying to say, Largely because it's all BS anyway.



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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, it's just that as you start to cloud your own words lately I could care less what it is that you are trying to say, Largely because it's all BS anyway.



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    J, there's no cloud. It's clearly stated. We do not have the right to decide who rules another country. That statement cannot be clearer. Do you agree or disagree?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are we? I thought the UN and Nato were bombing. Am I wrong?
    Are U.S. Troops Already on the Ground in Libya? - FoxNews.com

    RET. COL. DAVID HUNT, U.S. ARMY: Yes, absolutely. You've got British service been in there about three weeks ago and actually got captured and released. The French GIGN have been in there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their assets. We do not conduct operations like this, large scale air operations, without people on the ground. They have been very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you don't know who to talk to. But, yes, we have got intel gathering and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had them for about 12 days.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Are U.S. Troops Already on the Ground in Libya? - FoxNews.com

    RET. COL. DAVID HUNT, U.S. ARMY: Yes, absolutely. You've got British service been in there about three weeks ago and actually got captured and released. The French GIGN have been in there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their assets. We do not conduct operations like this, large scale air operations, without people on the ground. They have been very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you don't know who to talk to. But, yes, we have got intel gathering and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had them for about 12 days.
    O'Reilly and a Ret. Col.? Well, that's conclusive. However, it has nothing to do with what I said. Care to address that?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    1) The Muslim Brotherhood does not support al-Qa'ida nor does it support Terrorism as a method for political power.
    2) The Muslim Brotherhood exists in every Muslim majority country and tends to support republican virtues against dictatorial arbitration.
    3) If you believe in American values for liberty, civility, and democracy, then you must also accept democracy's outcome.
    4) We're finally on the right side of history in the Arab world. It is time to end American support for dictators. Democracy promotes ballots, not bullets.
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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Are U.S. Troops Already on the Ground in Libya? - FoxNews.com

    RET. COL. DAVID HUNT, U.S. ARMY: Yes, absolutely. You've got British service been in there about three weeks ago and actually got captured and released. The French GIGN have been in there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their assets. We do not conduct operations like this, large scale air operations, without people on the ground. They have been very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you don't know who to talk to. But, yes, we have got intel gathering and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had them for about 12 days.
    Your expert sources are not experts. One is retired and the other needs to retire.
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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Gheeze Joe, sometimes, I swear..... The point was that you were making as far as I saw was that the US is not the world police force. However, when you really are honest about it, it is a dodge to use the UN as cover for sending American resources in to use against a nation state then say that 'oh it is a UN, or NATO mission'... We all know what that means, and that is that the US will be the standard bearer. But nice to see you aknowledging that the MB is really anti America....A bit at a time I suppose.


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    It is because the US is by far the only country capable of implementing a no-fly-zone in Libya. All other countries of NATO combined does not even come close to the amount of money spent on US defense. I would love to see America scale back its military budget, but the right thinks our society is built upon legions, and not civil code.
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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Depends how you look at it. The US needs to push for more peace treaties with Israel.
    Israel is getting one of the largest foreign aid packages in the history of the world. What kind of peace treaties are you looking for?
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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which means what, exactly? This could apply to any action or inaction, right?

    I'm not a fan of military force in Lybia, and certainly not in regime change, and I've stated that. But like Afghanistan I can at least understand the thinking concerning trying to reduce civilian suffering.
    < http://www.houseofjapan.com/world/48...jured-in-libya >

    If you read the attached link one can deduce that civilian is another slippery slope. Who is on what side, anyway.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh you think it's Egypt alone? silly man.....


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    Then who is it...

    and before you start let me tell you who doesn't believe in the destruction of Israel: Kingdom of Jordan, Syria, Bahrain, Turkey. Now let me tell you which country has the nearest capacity of beating Israel in a conventional war....

    Turkey? Maybe... but barely
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