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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes I have
    Apparently not.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You thoughts aside, partisan as they sound, you should have read that I fault both. I don't think removing Gaddaffi (whatever spelling we use) assures anything. Like Iraq and Afghanistan, and even Egypt, things could get worse. And it could get so no matter what we do. However, when you only recognize these conerns in the aprty you don't like, but not your own, that is hypocracy.
    Go beyond the partisan bull****, Boo Boo


    What Obama is doing now is just gambling that the rebels will win with our support. What we're putting on the gambling table are American lives that will be lost if a successful Gadafi/Kaddafi retaliates against us with a terror attack

    Yes or no?

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Nope, and unlike you, I can say it with a straight face. I have been very vocal that I am against Obama's Libyan war. I am not owned by either side.
    Unlike me eh? Well, I say what I say with a straight face I assure you. And what makes you think I am "owned" by anyone?

    And, since you want to throw that " bash Bush" dichotomy into the mix, I am more than happy to respond to it.
    I didn't throw anything of the sort, and if you had actually read what was posted in this thread you would know that it was Boo who tried that deflection.

    Since Bill Clinton, whose war in Kosovo I vehemently opposed, there is only ONE war that I have supported. That was Bush's war in Afghanistan.
    So you were in favor of leaving Saddam in place eh? Tell me how is it that you choose whom to depose, and whom to leave alone? Is it by pure emotion or what? I will tend to agree with you if your stance is made on a constitutional basis of threat to us, but it just seems as though we are now playing a game in the ME of regime tampering that will not end well for us.

    So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
    I love how the internet gives one balls they would never have face to face. Don't you?

    This is the great part about being my own man. Neither side owns me. I am not a hack for either party.
    I'd say you have a leaning, but are either too ashamed, or too obtuse to recognize it.

    On the other hand, I see that you only oppose a war if a Democrat is running it. What's up with that?
    Not at all. I backed Bush in Iraq because I saw Saddam as a threat to the stability of the region. That argument is out the window now. Bush did what he thought he had to do at the time. And he went to congress and the UN before he did it. Unlike Barry who bows to the UN and trashes our constitution when it is expedient to do so.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did he? When did he invade Iraq? Yes, he bombed them, and it was questionable to say the least. But he also declared the problem dealt with (thought the mindless still use his early quote, ignoring what came afterward).

    And as I voted for Dole, why would Clinton matter? Does his dishonest make Bush honest? How?
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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Apparently not.
    An elitist will never admit it.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Go beyond the partisan bull****, Boo Boo


    What Obama is doing now is just gambling that the rebels will win with our support. What we're putting on the gambling table are American lives that will be lost if a successful Gadafi/Kaddafi retaliates against us with a terror attack

    Yes or no?
    Problem is that means we also support Al Qaeda helping these rebels.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Go beyond the partisan bull****, Boo Boo


    What Obama is doing now is just gambling that the rebels will win with our support. What we're putting on the gambling table are American lives that will be lost if a successful Gadafi/Kaddafi retaliates against us with a terror attack

    Yes or no?
    No, not really. Those lives are on the table either way, no matter who wins. This is one of the many problems with trying to play a role in deciding who wins civil wars. Both could be a problem for us. So, while I see some value in protecting civilans, it's a fool errand in the end. Not as egregious as Bush's invasions, but problematic and likely less helpful than we would like.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    An elitist will never admit it.


    You clearly don't me. Sterotypes sometimes lie you know.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Problem is that means we also support Al Qaeda helping these rebels.
    We? No....Obama. Definitely a sign of weakness.

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    Re: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya eyes a prize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I would love to name this thread 'Obama openly aids America's enemies', The Muslim Brotherhood seems to have its hand in most if not all of these supposed spontaneous uprisings in the ME, and as one Egyptian put it:
    This is what I state in my essay on we should not be in the Libyan intervention.

    During the Iraq war, out of all the foreign fighters that came to combat coalition forces, most of them came from Libya and in that, “almost all of them came from eastern Libya, the center of the anti-Gaddafi rebellion that the United States and others now have vowed to protect, according to internal al Qaeda documents uncovered by U.S. intelligence.” (Wood)
    Not only did eastern Libya send the most foreign fighters off to Iraq, it is also “the home of the Islamic Libyan Fighting Group, an anti-Gaddafi organization officially designated by the State Department as a terrorist organization.” (Wood) The Islamic Libyan Fighting Group is known to have deep, serious ties to Al Qaeda. In 2007, then-Libyan AQ leader announced that the Fighting Group was “‘joining al Qaeda as loyal soldiers.’” (Ersan) (emphasis added)

    This presents some serious problems as the Fighting Group is still active in Libya and by intervening on behalf of the rebels and allowing weapons to be shipped to them, we are indirectly aiding a known terrorist group!
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