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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    I bet this dude serves more time that Bradley Manning and Manning is a ****ing traitor to his country. This guy offed a few people, during a war. Manning endangered the lives of millions.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I bet this dude serves more time that Bradley Manning and Manning is a ****ing traitor to his country. This guy offed a few people, during a war. Manning endangered the lives of millions.
    yeah, but Manning is gay....he gets a pass.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, but Manning is gay....he gets a pass.
    Yeah, and he's anti-American. A combination that Libbos can't resist.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, and he's anti-American. A combination that Libbos can't resist.
    Ah, Manning IS being prosecuted is he not?

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    US soldier gets 24 years for murders of 3 Afghans - The Washington Post

    Guy has dishonored the uniform. Glad to see justice being served.
    He murdered 3 people... 24 years doesn't seem long enough. That's 8 years for each person...

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by The Preacher View Post
    It's a war, and they should be given some leeway. I'm sick of this country bending over to kiss Muslim ass. For me to say any more could be construed as hate speach, and I won't go there. The Afghan people only have themselves to blame for the misery of their occupation. That's all I will say on the subject.
    This comment is disgusting... A Muslim is still a human being. The crime shouldn't be given any leeway because it the victim was a Muslim.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by The Preacher View Post
    It's a war, and they should be given some leeway.
    Oh no, no, no. Don't fall into the trap of looking to defend the military for this.

    These soldiers are unworthy of even the Army uniform. Just like their Abu-Ghraib counterparts, they have embarrassed the nation and they have set the efforts of their fellow soldiers in that province back through their behaviors (Not to mention the Marines that have been steadily taking over their positions as these events occur). Another poster here on this thread mentioned that this is something that should be investigated wider in the chain. I would submit that since this is not the first time soldiers have misrepresented the nation and behaved in this fashion that this may be something that civilians may want to start asking questions about. From frat party hazing in a prison in Iraq, to murdering civilians for the sake of murder, to shooting up the Qu'ran, to treason, and to purposefully insulting Afghani leaders in meetings, the Army's discipline problems are not so much an individual effort. Considering that this is the branch that brought you the Mai Lai slaughter in Vietnam, not much has changed has it? Why?

    Instead of going after the never ending supply of untrained unproffessionals that keep turning up, maybe its time to demand better from the institution itself.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    US soldier gets 24 years for murders of 3 Afghans - The Washington Post

    Guy has dishonored the uniform. Glad to see justice being served.
    I heard of the case but haven't read up on it.

    Based on the little I know, I'm surprised it was this light. As prosecutor I'd have taken no plea, and gone for execution. If they had the evidence, that would have been just and justice. This comes across poorly and it could come at a cost to soldiers on the ground.

    MSgt: nobody died at Abu Graib, and what was equally disgusting was how the Leftists exploited it for political gain. It was an endless putrid parade in an attempt to bring down Bush and destroy Rummy.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I heard of the case but haven't read up on it.

    Based on the little I know, I'm surprised it was this light. As prosecutor I'd have taken no plea, and gone for execution. If they had the evidence, that would have been just and justice. This comes across poorly and it could come at a cost to soldiers on the ground.

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    They needed his testimony against the other guys. I realize some people think the sentence is too light. I am on the fence on that issue. However I will make the following points.

    1) I do think if he serves his full term and gets out, that the rest of his life will be pretty miserable. That's plenty of punishment in and of itself.
    2) If he is paroled and gets out after 7 yrs I would have a problem with that.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    MSgt: nobody died at Abu Graib.
    Wrong.

    Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Beginning in 2004, accounts of physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, including torture,[1][2] rape,[1] sodomy,[2] and homicide[3] of prisoners held in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (also known as Baghdad Correctional Facility) came to public attention. These acts were committed by military police personnel of the United States Army together with additional US governmental agencies.[4]
    The prisoner Manadel al-Jamadi died in Abu Ghraib prison after being interrogated and tortured by a CIA officer and a private contractor. The torture included physical violence and strappado hanging, whereby the victim is hung from the wrists with the hands tied behind the back. His death has been labeled a homicide by the US military,[7] but neither of the two men who caused his death have been charged. The private contractor was granted qualified immunity.[8]
    That is what happens when you try to turn reservists into prison guards.

    and what was equally disgusting was how the Leftists exploited it for political gain.
    I won't deny that the Abu Ghraib incidents were used for political purposes, but the outrage at what went on there is completely justified.

    It was an endless parade in an attempt to bring down Bush and destroy Rummy.
    Rumsfeld is up there with McNamara as one of the worst SecDefs of all time. Nobody from either side of the aisle should be defending how he handled America's foreign policy.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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