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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

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    Why is that?
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    It's a war, and they should be given some leeway. I'm sick of this country bending over to kiss Muslim ass. For me to say any more could be construed as hate speach, and I won't go there. The Afghan people only have themselves to blame for the misery of their occupation. That's all I will say on the subject.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

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    It's a war, and they should be given some leeway. I'm sick of this country bending over to kiss Muslim ass. For me to say any more could be construed as hate speach, and I won't go there. The Afghan people only have themselves to blame for the misery of their occupation.
    Umm...THEY COMMITTED MURDER. This wasn't an accidental killing where civilians got in the way. This was premeditated. No leeway should be given. War doesn't call for troops to kill civilians on purpose, sorry.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

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    Way too long, two years apiece would have been plenty.
    his attorney said he could be eligible for parole in about seven years so he may end up only doing just over 2 years for each murder.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    dont take the bait..
    Roger that but I will say this.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Preacher View Post
    It's a war, and they should be given some leeway. I'm sick of this country bending over to kiss Muslim ass. For me to say any more could be construed as hate speach, and I won't go there. The Afghan people only have themselves to blame for the misery of their occupation. That's all I will say on the subject.
    There are Rules to war, ROE and UCMJ. In this type war there are going to be Civilians deaths but there is different from fighting the enemy and intentionally Murdering People. We in the Service have a hard time with this war yes but we still have to fight with Honor and fellow the rules regardless how we or you feel about it. This was nothing to do with Kissing Muslim Ass they violated the ROW, ROE and UCMJ and they are being punished accordingly. Military Prisons are no joke and they will have to carry around for the rest of there life the Title of a Murder and carry there Dishonorable Discharge forever.

    That's all I have to say to you.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by The Preacher View Post
    It's a war, and they should be given some leeway. I'm sick of this country bending over to kiss Muslim ass. For me to say any more could be construed as hate speach, and I won't go there. The Afghan people only have themselves to blame for the misery of their occupation. That's all I will say on the subject.
    If members of our military are allowed to get away with drug-driven murder then we might as well stop fighting, as our enemies will have already succeeded in destroying us as a people.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    IIRC, this guy plea bargained by being willing to testify against the others. Without his testimony it's possible that the others could go free. He made a deal. 7-8 years in lock-up is a really long time. When he gets out he might recall that "getting his kill" was really stupid.
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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    IIRC, this guy plea bargained by being willing to testify against the others. Without his testimony it's possible that the others could go free. He made a deal. 7-8 years in lock-up is a really long time. When he gets out he might recall that "getting his kill" was really stupid.
    I think quite a few people on this thread are totally missing that point.

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    Re: Soldier gets 24 years for killing Afghan civilians

    if this guy serves his full term, he will be 46 when he gets out. with no job experience, a dishonorable discharge and a murder conviction on his record...his life is over. not to mention the abuse he will suffer while in prison. I think this is fair punishment, especially considering that without his testimony, the other would have likely gone free.
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