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Abercrombie criticized for selling push-up tops to little girls

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There is no excuse for this in my book and it no doubt incites Pedophiles to go after young girls.

I would love to see a serious report from a psychologist on how this kind of foolishness excites freaks who are already nuts.

I see no redeeming value in this exploitation of young children. What's next Cod pieces for young boys to enhance there nether regions?

This is completely over the the top nustoid.

Excuse me I have to throw up.

Abercrombie criticized for selling push-up tops to little girls - CNN.com

(CNN) -- No stranger to controversy, U.S. retailer Abercrombie & Fitch has come under fire for offering a push-up bikini top to young girls.

Its "Ashley" bikini -- described as "padded" and a "push-up" -- was posted on the Abercrombie Kids website earlier this week.

The company declined to comment Saturday but noted it has since updated the description of its bikini online.
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Morally I completely disagree.

It is Sickening to me. I quite honestly think stuff like this should be outlawed.

However.

Isn't this the fantastic "free market" you guys keep trumpeting.
 
"How is this okay for a second-grader?" asked Rebecca Odes in a recent post on the Babble parenting blog.
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1) Then don't buy it for your kids :shrug:
A stupid product description is merely that: a stupid product description. but if it's a serious issue - then don't BUY it. It's not like a 2nd grader is logging on and buying it for herself.

There is no excuse for this in my book and it no doubt incites Pedophiles to go after young girls.
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2) Wearing bikinis or head-to-toe rompers isn't going to deter or attract pedophiles. A pedophile is a pedophile and a molested child is a molested child REGARDLESS of what is being worn. Anyone who believes otherwise has never been molested, has never molested little children - and has no clue what they're talking about.
Yes - that means you. I don't know why you think that pedophiles care what kids WEAR. Maybe grown adults care what their partner wears - but pedophiles are not normal people.

"Playing at sexy is an inevitable and important part of growing up. But there's a difference between exploring these ideas on your own and having them sold to you in a children's catalog," she wrote
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3) THEN PARENTS SHOULDN'T SHOP AT ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH FOR CLOTHES FOR THEIR KIDS IF THEY DISAPPROVE OF THE CONTINUING SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE MARKETING IDEAS, dumbass idiots.

If people like her are so worried about violating hte precious psyches of their kids then WHY even buy that brand of clothing? If you shop at a store but oppose some of their decisions then aren't you really sending a mixed signal to your kids in the process?
 
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"Playing at sexy is an inevitable and important part of growing up. But there's a difference between exploring these ideas on your own and having them sold to you in a children's catalog," she wrote.
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Wonder if she ever heard of Ken and Barbie.....

 
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Jetboogieman said:
Morally I completely disagree.

It is Sickening to me. I quite honestly think stuff like this should be outlawed.

However.

Isn't this the fantastic "free market" you guys keep trumpeting.
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I don't think this is something that should be banned. What I find sad is that there is enough interest in parents buying this sort of clothing for their children that it actually elicited a market response. That's what's sad.
 
Ikari said:
I don't think this is something that should be banned. What I find sad is that there is enough interest in parents buying this sort of clothing for their children that it actually elicited a market response. That's what's sad.
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Ah but you see.

That's the thing about me, I have relatively socially conservative views for myself and my personal life.

However I never, ever feel that my views should be imposed on others.

So while I say something like that.

I do not wish to actually see it implemented.

Free Markets the free market right?

Oh and another thing. You think its parents buying this for their kids? Have you been to a mall lately on a Saturday and Sunday.

Kids as young as 10+ walking around together on their own, buying stuff from stores.
 
The parents have control, even if their kids are out buying things; where did those 10 year olds get the money? Parents. They can't have jobs yet. Hell in this ***** day and age we have, kids don't even get jobs at 14 (that's when I got my first job, I was 14 and asked my dad for a video game, he told me to get a job). The parents can control their children. It just takes a lot of work, and if you were lazy early on in your kid's life you're going to have a much harder time now imposing limits. But one can. I've seen very well behaved children who understand some rather complex ideals for their age. But that was involved parenting from the start.

Having kids isn't easy, well raising kids ain't. It takes a lot of work and you have to be involved. An involved parent can have a 13-14 year old child roaming the mall not buying jail bait clothing.

The end solution to the outrage over this, people need to be better parents. Quit churning out sluts! Dads, I'm looking at you on this one. Who the hell wants their daughter to be a slut? Get some values and face time in there with your children.
 
This really boils down to the fact that, if the kids are dressed up like that, it is the parents' fault, not that of Abercrombie and Finch. Some parents are obsessed with their kids, such as those who enter them in beauty contests. I admit that I don't have any proof for this, but I feel that this does psychological damage to kids. I would put them in the same category as those who obsess over little league baseball for their kids, sometimes to an extent that they ruin the fun for the kids.

My answer is simple. Just let kids be kids, for christ sake, and let them grow up normally. As for Abercrombie and Finch, they have a right to make a buck, even if it's off of parents who have a twisted view of how their kids should dress.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Ah but you see.

That's the thing about me, I have relatively socially conservative views for myself and my personal life.

However I never, ever feel that my views should be imposed on others.

So while I say something like that.

I do not wish to actually see it implemented.

Free Markets the free market right?

Oh and another thing. You think its parents buying this for their kids? Have you been to a mall lately on a Saturday and Sunday.

Kids as young as 10+ walking around together on their own, buying stuff from stores.
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I've been all over and seen all sorts of things - sure - parents give money to their kids and drop them off at the mall. I use to work at a movie theater as manager and people would take their 2, 5 and 12 year olds into movies like "Bones" - a big family affair.

If a parent cared then they wouldn't *do that* - I'm not going to chastise a clothing company for fault of the parents in all these different situations.

If parents didn't buy such items.
If they didn't drop their kids off unmonitored with cash in hand at the mall.
Then there'd be no market for such items.

But parents do - so there is.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
I've been all over and seen all sorts of things - sure - parents give money to their kids and drop them off at the mall. I use to work at a movie theater as manager and people would take their 2, 5 and 12 year olds into movies like "Bones" - a big family affair.

If a parent cared then they wouldn't *do that* - I'm not going to chastise a clothing company for fault of the parents in all these different situations.

If parents didn't buy such items.
If they didn't drop their kids off unmonitored with cash in hand at the mall.
Then there'd be no market for such items.

But parents do - so there is.
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I concur.

But let us also not forget there is alot of other factors.

Such as the power of advertising and media.

Young kids always aspire to seem older (obviously not as a general rule but it is something that happens) and what does the media say a woman should look like? what should she have?

Media is powerful, and has a powerful effect on Children.
 
Everybody in the suburbs knows that Abercrombie is the training ground for the future hoes and "bisexual when drunk only in order to get attention from guys" college girls of society. This is neither surprising nor upsetting. Don't buy it for your kids if you don't like it...but if they want it, good luck in a few years!
 
Jetboogieman said:
I concur.

But let us also not forget there is alot of other factors.

Such as the power of advertising and media.

Young kids always aspire to seem older (obviously not as a general rule but it is something that happens) and what does the media say a woman should look like? what should she have?

Media is powerful, and has a powerful effect on Children.
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Regulate what your children watch. I know several couples who don't have much in the way of Cable. They do a lot over Netflix where they can choose programs to watch (like Dukes of Hazzard!). There is very limited television, and all television time is supervised. They talk about commercials and all that stuff too, about advertising, appropirate behavior/clothing, etc. It's worked out well for them

Again, you can't just plop your child down in front of the TV or drop them off at the mall and think everything will be ok. You have to be involved.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I concur.

But let us also not forget there is alot of other factors.

Such as the power of advertising and media.

Young kids always aspire to seem older (obviously not as a general rule but it is something that happens) and what does the media say a woman should look like? what should she have?

Media is powerful, and has a powerful effect on Children.
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Yeah - because we certainly don't want girls to grow up and be women in bikinis . . . look - I see the concerns, but a bikini for little girls or football for little boys isn't where it's at for me.
 
Ikari said:
Regulate what your children watch. I know several couples who don't have much in the way of Cable. They do a lot over Netflix where they can choose programs to watch (like Dukes of Hazzard!). There is very limited television, and all television time is supervised. They talk about commercials and all that stuff too, about advertising, appropirate behavior/clothing, etc. It's worked out well for them

Again, you can't just plop your child down in front of the TV or drop them off at the mall and think everything will be ok. You have to be involved.
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Forgive me Ikari.

But your expectations for parents are waaaaaaaaay to high.

EVERY generation seems like its the least moral one....

A sign perhaps we're getting old.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Morally I completely disagree.

It is Sickening to me. I quite honestly think stuff like this should be outlawed.

However.

Isn't this the fantastic "free market" you guys keep trumpeting.
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I'd have to agree with you... They are just going to make a product somebody else won't, because it might bring in some money... It's a market to cater to, and I am sure they will sell in some places like where girl's get implants before they graduate high school sometimes.
 
Ikari said:
I don't think this is something that should be banned. What I find sad is that there is enough interest in parents buying this sort of clothing for their children that it actually elicited a market response. That's what's sad.
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Ever see Toddlers and Tiaras? I bet some of those show parents would buy these tops for their 2 year olds to wear in the swimsuit competition...
 
Jetboogieman said:
Forgive me Ikari.

But your expectations for parents are waaaaaaaaay to high.

EVERY generation seems like its the least moral one....

A sign perhaps we're getting old.
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I would say that I have seen more ****ty parents than I have exceptionally great parents. Thank god I am not a parent. It looks hard to raise a kid.
 
SheWolf said:
Ever see Toddlers and Tiaras? I bet some of those show parents would buy these tops for their 2 year olds to wear in the swimsuit competition...
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Some of the parents in toddlers and tiaras should be thrown in ****ing jail IMHO.
 
I've spent some time at an elementary school lately. Scary how mature some of those little girls are looking. I saw some fourth graders who actually need bras. Remember the Brooke Shields ads for Calvin Klein. Dang, remember the Brook Shields movie, PRETTY BABY??

Interesting times. It's nice there are still some who object to this kind of stuff.
 
Abercrombie should be criticized for selling clothes like this. It may be wrong for the government to get involved, but doesn't mean society can't criticize unethical behavior. Sexualizing children is wrong and corporations who sell products which enable such behavior should be treated like anyone else who who sells out their morals for a buck.
 
I was raised in a very religous family - extremely protected from all things 'ungodly' - and I sure as heck wasn't exposed to even a single image of a fashion model or butt cheek. (being raised in a very religious town - itw as easy for my parents to pull off).

I never wore a bikini - we weren't even allowed to wear shorts or pants, only dresses and skirts. We weren't in some cult or living in a compound, either - my parents just fel it their duty to protect me from the 'evils of the world'
I was molested my whole childhood in that town by religious people
I had fantasies of becoming a stripper when I was in highschool so the boys would love to look at me
I still ended up knocked up at age 17 and I can pole and belly dance.

What I wore during the summer had absolutely nothing ot do with the way my life went. My parents bizarre obcessive 'protectionism' really made me more intrigued by these no-no things.

There's a lot more to what a person is made of and why they are the way they are than seeing some pictures of people and wearing little shorts.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I was raised in a very religous family - extremely protected from all things 'ungodly' - and I sure as heck wasn't exposed to even a single image of a fashion model or butt cheek. (being raised in a very religious town - itw as easy for my parents to pull off).

I never wore a bikini - we weren't even allowed to wear shorts or pants, only dresses and skirts. We weren't in some cult or living in a compound, either - my parents just fel it their duty to protect me from the 'evils of the world'
I was molested my whole childhood in that town by religious people
I had fantasies of becoming a stripper when I was in highschool so the boys would love to look at me
I still ended up knocked up at age 17 and I can pole and belly dance.

What I wore during the summer had absolutely nothing ot do with the way my life went. My parents bizarre obcessive 'protectionism' really made me more intrigued by these no-no things.

There's a lot more to what a person is made of and why they are the way they are than seeing some pictures of people and wearing little shorts.
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That's very sad, Aunt Spiker. I hope your life has gotten good.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Morally I completely disagree.

It is Sickening to me. I quite honestly think stuff like this should be outlawed.

However.

Isn't this the fantastic "free market" you guys keep trumpeting.
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hey...If their POS parents are stupid enough to buy it for them...... :shrug:

the parents are the ones who should be kicked in the ass over this. if people weren't buying it A&F wouldn't be selling it.
 
Marshabar said:
That's very sad, Aunt Spiker. I hope your life has gotten good.
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Yes - my life is wonderful now. I'm happily married and we have a solid, close family. Thank you.
 
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