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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No, you find out away to afford it if you care.

    The UKs problem (and many others) is that of waste and corruption.
    Yes, and extravagant social spending is that waste and corruption.

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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yes, and extravagant social spending is that waste and corruption.
    Define "extravagant social spending" first.
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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Define "extravagant social spending" first.


    30% of GDP??? That's extravagant.

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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Government in the UK has the balls to do what our U.S. Congress doesn't. 'Course we'll be much bigger crybabies.
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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post


    30% of GDP??? That's extravagant.
    That's the education segment. The 2010 total looks to be around 74% of GDP

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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    That's the education segment. The 2010 total looks to be around 74% of GDP
    I am pretty sure it is cumulative, Tash. So, ~7% for Welfare, ~8% for Pensions, ~8% for Health Care and ~7% for Education.

    Total Spending looks to me to be ~45% of GDP.

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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    big picture---what's going on from greece to sacramento, with the uk and wisconsin in between, is of a piece

    it's a PHYSICAL force of seismic proportions which is rocking the entire planet

    ie, there's nothing any of you are gonna be able to do to stop it

    stay up

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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I am pretty sure it is cumulative, Tash. So, ~7% for Welfare, ~8% for Pensions, ~8% for Health Care and ~7% for Education.

    Total Spending looks to me to be ~45% of GDP.
    Thanks hun. That parsing makes much more sense (in an extravagant manner).

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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    big picture---what's going on from greece to sacramento, with the uk and wisconsin in between, is of a piece

    it's a PHYSICAL force of seismic proportions which is rocking the entire planet

    ie, there's nothing any of you are gonna be able to do to stop it

    stay up
    I hope you are right.
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    Re: Violent protests in the U.K. over budget cuts?

    The Prof is right, what is going on cannot be stopped and it is only inevitable. The anarchists might as well resign themselves to the fact that adults are now in charge. Their opinion isn't worth anything anyway.

    The BBC has a great page of articles and links detailing the cuts. Moving the retirement age up to 66 was a good start. There also appears to be rate hikes for those who use rail services.

    I for one, just don't buy the claims of "unfairness" regarding the proposals and the poor

    If you take 3% of a family's total income and public services way from them, do you need to know how rich they are to judge whether the cut is fair? The government says you don't: a 3% hit is a 3% hit.

    Polly Toynbee - and other campaigners for the poor think it is relevant, because the rich family has the means to get that service another way. If they lose their right to free child care they can go out and pay for it. The poor family probably can't.

    What is fair? I leave that up to you. But perhaps it's another tribute to the Blair years that we have had weeks of political debate centred around a concept that is almost impossible to pin down.
    The rich will be able to afford anything, under that logic, nothing should be done as it will automatically be "unfair." Quite frankly, if you have babysitting problems, that is YOUR problem, not the government's. Form a Co-op, call your friends, call family, or find another sitter. That is what everyone else does day in and day out without government involvement or money. Suck it up and accept the new reality. Then again, if I was a 30 year old unemployed anarchist living at home, I would be upset that mom's check for me was reduced or cut out entirely too.

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