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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I am all for changing the Can system to something that does work better

    As I understand things the Australian and French health care systems are among the best in the world. Both are more affordable then the US and I believe get better overall results then Canada
    I've heard that about the French system as well but have no direct knowledge. I also forgot to mention that I have experienced the Australian Health Care system because my son was born there, and it was excellent! But that was a few years ago and I understand that they are now having trouble financing it They may have user fees now but I'll have to check.

    Many of these social programs start off well but eventually the bureaucracy grows and they become political. Every few years in Canada Ed Broadbent will chair an investigation into declining Health Care in Canada and after a few weeks of study they will determine that the system needs more money. That's just the nature of the beast.
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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

    Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.

    It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.
    Is there some set of instructions that you people follow every time Europe/Canada comes up? Im starting to get paranoid.

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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I am all for changing the Can system to something that does work better

    As I understand things the Australian and French health care systems are among the best in the world. Both are more affordable then the US and I believe get better overall results then Canada
    The main obstacle to a better Canadian health care system is the United States. They are political and economically stronger than Canada and so they exert a lot of influence. The Canadian health system is gradually being eroded by various forces to the south, and as the system gets worse, the American right will get to point out how ineffective it is. This snowballs the lack of support.

    The goal is to privatize the Canadian system into a high profit sector of business much like in the U.S., despite the fact that the U.S. has the most wasteful and ineffective health care in the western world. The people pay more and get less, but that's the way corporate powers want it.

    The only thing that is stopping a complete takeover at this point is that the Canadian constitution guarantees adequate health care for everyone. Without that provision, UHC in Canada would be dust.

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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    that's just awful.

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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that's just awful.
    Liblady, there are many similar stories, all are heart wrenching, and as a result no one really wants to post them. But the irony in this story was just too strong to avoid.

    And please keep in mind that there is no legal recourse for these tragedies, only neverending promises of improvement.

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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Liblady, there are many similar stories, all are heart wrenching, and as a result no one really wants to post them. But the irony in this story was just too strong to avoid.

    And please keep in mind that there is no legal recourse for these tragedies, only neverending promises of improvement.
    For every heart wrenching, fall through the cracks story from Canadian and/or British healthcare, I can easily find one from the US. It proves nothing aside the point that none are perfect.
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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Don't understand how people who don't live in Canada can judge a system they have not experienced. Much of what I have seen in the media is inaccurate.

    I have never experienced what is written about the Canadian system. Today I had a doctor's appointment. Walked in handed over my health card. Received my exam. Received a form to get an ultra sound. Left. None of this I had to pay for. I won't even have to pay for the ultra sound. I have also had a variety of other tests run recently and didn't have to pay for those either.

    Now when I say I didn't have to pay....I fully realize that I have paid through my taxes. Which is fine with me. Would rather walk in and out without having to figure out can I afford this exam....never mind the tests or procedures that may be needed!

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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    For every heart wrenching, fall through the cracks story from Canadian and/or British healthcare, I can easily find one from the US. It proves nothing aside the point that none are perfect.
    No, none are perfect. That's why a great deal of thought has to go into any government run enterprise. There are many pitfalls to avoid and some of them glaringly obvious. The first is that the government cannot, over the long term, manage anything.

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    Re: Canadian government falls, election set for May

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, none are perfect. That's why a great deal of thought has to go into any government run enterprise. There are many pitfalls to avoid and some of them glaringly obvious. The first is that the government cannot, over the long term, manage anything.
    LOL, we are back at square one. The Canadian government does not run our healthcare. Hospitals and clinics can do whatever hell they want with the funding they receive.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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