I have literally never watched Hardball. I would never get any news from a 24-hour, TV news network. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I never said you did, however you make arguments that are typical of many hard core liberals I encounter that do. So, 'burst my bubble'? Nah, I don't think that it is some great rhetorical achievement to call out a lib on their views, wrong as they are most often, I just see it as maybe a service that you have at least one voice that may get something through so that when you finally wake up, you'll be able to say yeah, that was right.
Also, almost every conservative I've ever argued with uses the same talking points that republicans on the Hill are discussing (which is then passed down to Fox News and conservative talk radio). The union-bashing is a great example of it. Three months ago if I asked a conservative what the greatest threat to America is, what answer do you think I would have gotten?
Oh, I don't know all conservatives so I really couldn't say for certain, but I can tell you what I would have told you....Debt, Spending, Islam, and Obama, not necessarily in that order.
I love the Daily Show. It's funny how much conservatives hate the show, considering all he really does is take clips of what they say and then play them back.
Don't get me wrong, I too watch it and think that Stewart is funny for what he is, but I surely don't take it as news. See what Stewart does is he mocks certain aspects of people, and or DC politics, chops up bit pieces out of context of the people he attacks, and then presents it as though it is complete to make a point, often a liberal point, but a disingenuous one in any case. It is funny sure, just not too accurate.
My favorite episode is when he caught Fox News calling their partial owner a terrorist. It was classic. How you can support an organization that willingly called their owner a terrorist just so that they could support a partisan agenda is beyond me. You justify it, I can't.
First of all that was debated right here on DP in a thread, you should go back find it and read it. Second, you think that TDS depiction of FOXNews on that matter was complete, and accurate?
Jon Stewart does a great job at pointing out how fake of a channel Fox News is. I am sorry that upsets you.
No, he does a great job of employing a staff of liberal content writers, and clip editors that manipulate the stories of the day to make them funny and make a liberal point, you lap it up as though it is complete, and comprehensive news...That say a whole lot more about you pal.
Talk down to me if you must, if it makes you feel better. First of all, do your research on me before you attack me. I don't post Media Matters links. I have never even been to their website (except maybe in passing from a link posted here). I don't watch Fox News - how can anyone? - but I do listen to conservative talk radio all the time. It's amazing how bad it is, how it rarely has one fact thrown in with the thousands of partisan jibes, and how absolutely useless it is to listen to.
So you are telling me that your news sources are TDS, and Conservative talk radio? :lamo Yeah, sell me another one....I find that unbelievable.
Whose money was it when you lowered taxes for the rich? Why is raising taxes wealth redistribution and lowering it isn't? You realize how phony that is, right?
Phony? no, correct yes. See, when you lower the tax rate, and I mean actually lower it, not just give Tax credits that are designed to control the populations behavior, that lets people keep the money they have earned.
Do you believe that people earn money, or that the government just lets them keep some of its money?
What I am trying to say is, j-mac, (or since I'm your son: father?), is don't phone it in when you debate with me. I know my stuff: I read real news, and I keep up to date with honest reports.
What are those sources for real? I've laid mine out from time to time in here, what are yours truthfully?
And did you really post some blog as evidence of wrong doing by Media Matters? You posted a source just like Media Matters to discredit them. That's awesome man. Way to go.
Actually it was an opinion piece talking about an article in Politico, exposing MM for the juvenile, and possibly illegal crap they are pulling....Tell me, if People like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh (who's not on FNS), or Bill O were so laughably wrong about what is going on today, then why the Sabotage effort by Soros and MM? Why not just point out where they are wrong, laugh at them and move on? Nah, they are hitting too close, and it bug liberals to be exposed in such a way, and that FNS has the news viewership locked up by in many cases more than double their nearest competitor on the networks, or cable outlets, and that makes me chuckle when I hear the vitriolic attacks that Bourgeois Socialist such as yourself, new in life, fresh from academia with a head full of what your quasi socialist profs told you to think, and say without having the benefit of life experience, or knowing the ramifications of the thought which you espouse. Marx has a term for them, 'useful idiots'... And I don't say that to be insulting, but it is what it is.
See, you seem to think that you are open minded, and fair when it comes to debate, but in the end really you are really no different than the insulting, frothing ideologue who resorts to mockery, and name calling when you run out of boiler plate retort. That doesn't make you anything other than young. I'll leave it there for now and just close by saying you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss, and mock just because everyone else with your line of thought does so.
j-mac