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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Please, show me where the good parts are.
    It will destroy small business, thus benefiting the corporations and eliminating competition against them. Duh.
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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

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    Agreed, which is why I would say many who are in the upper MIDDLE CLASS are not being hurt by these tax policies.

    I never had any worries for the upper middle class as they have been enjoying greatly reduced taxes for 30 years.

    I used real 2009 dollars to adjust for cost of living. Plus, that does not account for the increased in standard of living brought about by new technologies, more efficient designs, etc. How many people 20 years ago had a flat screen tv, how many middle class (even poor) people do now? How many had a personal computer? How many cars were fuel injected? There is little doubt in my mind that life is much easier now than it was 20 or 30 years ago.
    Thanks for you opinion.

    As for inequality and financial crisis, yes there does appear to be a link. That would be another reason to oppose extreme inequality. However, that would not be because poor people are getting poorer and rich people are getting richer. Inequality does mean that one group is gaining or losing faster than another, but it does not imply that there necessarily has to be a loser. The rich could gain very quickly while the poor gained more slowly, thus raising everyone in the process.
    So you are satisfied with $113 growth over 3 decades, with one and seven poor and more and more of the middle class sliding into the lower class, while those that make over $1 million get a tax decrease of $93,000 a year on average? That is what you call fair?
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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It will destroy small business, thus benefiting the corporations and eliminating competition against them. Duh.
    Thereby making it easier for the government to control the private sector. I've already figured that one out.

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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I never had any worries for the upper middle class
    few care what you do or don't have worries for

    by the way, tax hikes, here in reality, are OFF THE TABLE

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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    few care what you do or don't have worries for

    by the way, tax hikes, here in reality, are OFF THE TABLE

    dream on, mr mitty
    Realistically tax hikes are not off the table

    They are unavoidable in the US

    In no way shape or form will the US be able to cut enough from its budgets to clear the deficits without some tax hikes as well
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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Realistically tax hikes are not off the table

    They are unavoidable in the US

    In no way shape or form will the US be able to cut enough from its budgets to clear the deficits without some tax hikes as well
    That means we'll need to stop subsidizing multi-million dollar green energy money pits. Lower the earned income credit. Stop with dumbass policies that kill jobs and lower tax revenues. That would bring in gazillions, alone, not tomention if we stop idiotic crap like Cash for Clunkers and funding million dollar trips to China to scope out dinosaur eggs.

    There's lots we can do without raising taxes.

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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That means we'll need to stop subsidizing multi-million dollar green energy money pits. Lower the earned income credit. Stop with dumbass policies that kill jobs and lower tax revenues. That would bring in gazillions, alone, not tomention if we stop idiotic crap like Cash for Clunkers and funding million dollar trips to China to scope out dinosaur eggs.
    In other words, return to the same failed policies that brought us to the greatest recession since the great depression?

    There's lots we can do without raising taxes.
    Such as?
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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In other words, return to the same failed policies that brought us to the greatest recession since the great depression?
    Government funded bull**** projects are going to fix the economy?



    Such as?
    Stop wasting money on bull****. Ending the Child Tax Credit would be a great start.

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    Re: G.E.ís Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You realize that when bog businesses get across the board tax cuts, those same tax cuts apply to small businesses, as well; and vice versa when taxes are raised?

    In that case, we need to start making the people who never pay taxes kick in and anty up.
    Actually your first point is not true... the substantial reason the big business does not pay taxes is they Internationalize their tax posture, literally off-shoring profits through very elaborate cost and revenue allocation schemes created to show little to no US domestic income. These schemes are designed by their large cadre of tax lawyers and accountants and outside consultants. Small businesses are often not global, had have less tax planning resource with which to work. Total tax revenue paid by corporations has been dropping dramatically over the past 30 years, and the corporate tax burden that remains is largely paid by small and mid-sized domestic corporations.

    So yes, we need to start making those that never pay taxes kick in and ante up, as income based taxes are paid by every individual in one form or another, but not by the largest multi-national corporations, we need a corporate minimum tax....

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