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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Frankly, I'd probably vote for Romney if he had a different on opinion on abortion and gay marriage (he's still somewhat of a moderate on those issues, though).
    Not sure at this moment who I'd vote for, maybe a third party or maybe not at all.

    If the republicans make social conservativism and issue this election I will certainly not be voting for them.
    It would be unwise for the Republicans to let the Democrats choose their candidate. The New York Times selected John McCain as the best Republican candidate and we know what happened then.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It would be unwise for the Republicans to let the Democrats choose their candidate. The New York Times selected John McCain as the best Republican candidate and we know what happened then.
    Yeah, well, GOP voters selected him too. Honestly he was probably the best candidate out of all the nominees the GOP fielded in '08, and that's why he won the nomination.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    dadt fight is over.
    but manchin's still there

    as are the nelsons, mccaskill, webb, tester, conrad...

    each is gonna have to defend his or her RECORD (those who haven't already announced retirement, that is)

    and THERE's your 2012 presidential campaign---barack hussein obama's RECORD

    have fun with it

    why do you think WEINER WANTS OUT

    what pushed HILLARY OVER THE EDGE

    americans KNOW

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It would be unwise for the Republicans to let the Democrats choose their candidate. The New York Times selected John McCain as the best Republican candidate and we know what happened then.
    McCain probably was the best Republican candidate. Frankly, the anti-bush sentiment was ridiculously strong in '08 and the democrats could have probably won with anybody.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah, well, GOP voters selected him too. Honestly he was probably the best candidate out of all the nominees the GOP fielded in '08, and that's why he won the nomination.
    I rather doubt that, just as I doubt BHO was the best candidate.

    The American people corrected their error with Jimmy Carter and it will be the same with Barrack Obama.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    McCain probably was the best Republican candidate. Frankly, the anti-bush sentiment was ridiculously strong in '08 and the democrats could have probably won with anybody.
    Yes, there's a lot of truth on that. That's why the strategy was to tie McCain to Bush, and it worked.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I rather doubt that, just as I doubt BHO was the best candidate.

    The American people corrected their error with Jimmy Carter and it will be the same with Barrack Obama.
    They didn't correct their error with GWB... and Obama isn't worse than him, at least not yet. If he gets booted out of the WH next year, he wouldn't be considered one of the worst presidents in modern history. He wouldn't be one of the best presidents either though...

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    They didn't correct their error with GWB... and Obama isn't worse than him, at least not yet. If he gets booted out of the WH next year, he wouldn't be considered one of the worst presidents in modern history. He wouldn't be one of the best presidents either though...
    There was no viable Democratic candidate to run against George Bush in either election.

    Yes, it's difficult to judge Presidents when in the thick of things but I'm not sure what accomplishments BHO and his supporters can point to that would convince others that he was a good President. I can't see any, can you?

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There was no viable Democratic candidate to run against George Bush in either election.

    Yes, it's difficult to judge Presidents when in the thick of things but I'm not sure what accomplishments BHO and his supporters can point to that would convince others that he was a good President. I can't see any, can you?
    The only area he has done a lot in, is gay rights... and I happen to agree with everything he's done there.

    As for viable candidates, some would argue the Obama wasn't one himself... He didn't have experience, McCain did, but he kicked the crap out of McCain in the voting booth.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I rather doubt that, just as I doubt BHO was the best candidate.

    The American people corrected their error with Jimmy Carter and it will be the same with Barrack Obama.
    Who would you say was the best GOP candidate? And if so, why couldn't he beat out McCain?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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