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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's because the attacks from the Left tend to be personal, such as calling Sarah Palin "an idiot".
    Idiot is a term that most accurately describes her mental capacity in comparison to most people in national politics. The majority of left-leaning pundits don't use that word. No centrists ever use that word. They are generally much kinder.

    So, by 'left' you must mean posters and bloggers. Yes, things get heated on the anonymous internet.


    She is far from being an idiot and every rational person knows that,
    She thought Africa was a country... All the 'tutoring' from handlers aren't going to help at this point.

    I'll issue the same challenge -- find one speech, debate, interview, where she's speaking intelligently on specific economic issues or foreign policy -- and not just regurgitating empty talking points.



    They will now call Obama "an idiot" and the Left will respond with "racist".
    No, they will laugh in your face. But when you say "take our country back"... most people know you mean "from the black guy".

    These questions should involve the country and its future and not the team sport of party politics,
    Most politicians and pundits are overly-kind to Sarah Palin. She is an example of the Peter Principle in politics. She was under qualified as mayor.

    At 2012 draws near, some GOPers are finally coming out and saying that.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

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    Nah, Quayle is smarter....You do know that it wasn't Quayle that misspelled that word right?


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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Michele Bachmann steals the show in Iowa - Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com

    She called for a "fair tax" and said that the "current United States tax code is a weapon of mass destruction."
    General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010 - ABC News

    She then started firing up the crowd, saying, ”Does anyone remember the trillion dollar stimulus bill?"
    Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME

    "Did President Obama correctly diagnose the problem with job creation. ..what’s his level of credibility on job creation?"
    Unemployment Rate 8.9%

    "Now he’s got us engaged in another third middle eastern war."
    NATO deal leaves U.S. still commanding Libya strikes | Reuters

    Barack Obama: Libyan air campaign could last - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

    Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links - Telegraph

    Coalition considers arming Libyan opposition

    She also made a joke about Chinese President Hu and the national debt, saying "So we know now that Hu is your daddy."
    http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...t_a_done_deal/

    NationalJournal.com - America?s Rodney Dangerfield Moment - Friday, November 12, 2010

    Amateur Hour at the White House - Council on Foreign Relations

    US Foreign Policy: Obama's Nice Guy Act Gets Him Nowhere on the World Stage - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

    And she drew massive boos from the crowd when she mentioned New York Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner, who recently said he is looking into a waiver from the health care reform bill for New York City.
    Weiner Wants Obamacare Waiver for New York City

    "The Constitution holds the answer. … We the people," she said.
    Constitution for the United States of America

    Bachmann also was the lone candidate of the event at the time she spoke to mention an issue that's certain to be hot in the GOP primary - immigration - in her speech.
    Arizona Immigration Law: Poll Finds Broad Support
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As I recall polls said at the time that she won that debate.

    Perhaps less was expected of her because of her inexperience, and Biden had been in the Senate for a great many years and that might have made a difference, but you can watch it here for yourself.

    Sarah Palin and Joe Biden Vice Presidential Debate – Full Video | HollywoodGrind

    If the debate were to be held now I believe, given her greater experience, she would win easily.
    She was the winner in that debate. No question in my mind.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Name calling and attempts at ridicule makes up a great deal of their political debate, Marshabar, and is intended to replace any discussion of the issues, where they tend to be very weak.

    Charles Krauthammer made the point last week or so that the Left believes the Right are evil and the Right believes the Left to be stupid. I think there is a great deal of truth in that.
    Sure he said that? It sounds backwards........
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Idiot is a term that most accurately describes her mental capacity in comparison to most people in national politics. The majority of left-leaning pundits don't use that word. No centrists ever use that word. They are generally much kinder.

    So, by 'left' you must mean posters and bloggers. Yes, things get heated on the anonymous internet.




    [B]She thought Africa was a country... All the 'tutoring' from handlers aren't going to help at this point.I'll issue the same challenge -- find one speech, debate, interview, where she's speaking intelligently on specific economic issues or foreign policy -- and not just regurgitating empty talking points.[/B]



    No, they will laugh in your face. But when you say "take our country back"... most people know you mean "from the black guy".



    Most politicians and pundits are overly-kind to Sarah Palin. She is an example of the Peter Principle in politics. She was under qualified as mayor.

    At 2012 draws near, some GOPers are finally coming out and saying that.
    It was a hoax. Who needs a tutor?

    Sarah Palin Africa Story a Hoax - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com
    It was among the juicier post-election recriminations: Fox News Channel quoted an unnamed McCain campaign figure as saying that Sarah Palin did not know that Africa was a continent.
    Who would say such a thing? On Monday the answer popped up on a blog and popped out of the mouth of[B] David Shuster, an MSNBC anchor. [/B]“Turns out it was Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, who has come forward today to identify himself as the source of the leaks,” Mr. Shuster said.Trouble is, Martin Eisenstadt doesn’t exist. His blog does, but it’s a put-on. The think tank where he is a senior fellow — the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy — is just a Web site. The TV clips of him on YouTube are fakes.
    And the claim of credit for the Africa anecdote is just the latest ruse by Eisenstadt, who turns out to be a very elaborate hoax that has been going on for months. MSNBC, which quickly corrected the mistake, has plenty of company in being taken in by an Eisenstadt hoax, including The New Republic and The Los Angeles Times.
    Now a pair of obscure filmmakers say they created Martin Eisenstadt to help them pitch a TV show based on the character. But under the circumstances, why should anyone believe a word they say?
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As I recall polls said at the time that she won that debate.

    Perhaps less was expected of her because of her inexperience, and Biden had been in the Senate for a great many years and that might have made a difference, but you can watch it here for yourself.

    Sarah Palin and Joe Biden Vice Presidential Debate – Full Video | HollywoodGrind

    If the debate were to be held now I believe, given her greater experience, she would win easily.
    Palin exceeded expectations, but Biden won

    Debate poll says Biden won, Palin beat expectations - CNN

    That's how I remember the coverage, but I think a few news sources were saying she won... Overall, it seemed like most news stations and journalists, not pundits, were saying Biden won. I personally didn't like the winking and cutesy crap... At one point she even told the moderator she wouldn't answer the questions the way she wanted... bad debate tactic IMO

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Palin exceeded expectations, but Biden won

    Debate poll says Biden won, Palin beat expectations - CNN

    That's how I remember the coverage, but I think a few news sources were saying she won... Overall, it seemed like most news stations and journalists, not pundits, were saying Biden won. I personally didn't like the winking and cutesy crap... At one point she even told the moderator she wouldn't answer the questions the way she wanted... bad debate tactic IMO
    The winking. You reminded me of it. It was very strange, I mean she was so silly and flip, and, God help us...flirty?!? A person is assuming a lot if he/she winks at you. It was very immature and unprofessional.

    Also, someone said earlier in the thread that Palin would win that debate now, she's learned so much. But, they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    I think she would do even worse.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

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    No, they will laugh in your face. But when you say "take our country back"... most people know you mean "from the black guy".
    Yep, him and the liberals, but it has nothing to do with him being black. Who was he trying to take the country back from, the white guy?

    'Taking Our Country Back' | The Weekly Standard

    But Dean’s rhetoric outlived his candidacy. And in 2008, the candidate who wanted to “take our country back” was Barack Obama.He began his campaign in 2007 by saying, “Tomorrow, we begin a great journey. A journey to take our country back.” That February he told New Hampshire voters, “You have the power to take this country back.” That April he told students in an Iowa high school that ''Thousands of people across the country feel we are in this moment of time where we might be able to take our country back.'' Heck, that June Obama spoke at the lefty “Take Back America Forum,” telling attendees that “It's going to be because of you that we take our country back.”I could go on and on and on, but you probably get the idea.

    “If you join me, we're going to take our country back.”
    “We're gonna take our country back.”
    “We want to make sure that everybody who wants to come and join in the party and join in the effort to take this country back.”
    Yup. That was all Barack Obama doing his best to unite Purple America by ending the partisan Washington political culture.
    Now that he’s president, Obama can’t really talk that way anymore. But it would be nice if the people on his side would remember that, once upon a time, he did.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Sure he said that? It sounds backwards........
    Just listened to it and he said "dumb".

    I think he has it right. We both know how the Left behaves and I can still get a kick out of their irrational statements. It was strongly hinted on these boards that I was a "Fascist" myself, as well as a McCarthyite, a Pinochet fan, and so on. You can see also that some still insist on calling Sarah Palin an "idiot" when their own intelligence is obviously open to question.

    The Left will never recognize just how foolish they are because they simply don't get it. They'll still believe that $14 trillion debt is not a problem, that rioting n the streets will create wealth and solve government's expenditure problems, and so on. Although they are very bright in some areas, many areas in fact, they are just very, very dumb when it comes the handling of other people's money. Their beliefs are a matter of faith. Facts will never deter them.

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