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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who do you see as a midwest Gov that has enough name recognition to make a real run this time?

    As a democrat, Romney is the one republican that I find really worrisome. If the economy is still real bad come Nov '12, Obama is gone pretty much no matter who runs(cept maybe the fringe folks), if it is real good, Obama wins against any one. If the economy is like it probably will be, better but not great, Romney is the only one I could see with a real chance ass a republican.
    There is not one. If you look at Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio's governors, all have suffered significant losses in popularity among Independents because of their anti-union activities. That may make them more popular to the right wing leaning base, but it works against them for November.

    A lot will depend on if Palin runs. Then it depends on if Romney can score a few early wins and if there will be a STOP MITT effort uniting the more conservative tea party wing against him.

    I think the strongest ticket they can assemble to win in November is Romney & Christie.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who do you see as a midwest Gov that has enough name recognition to make a real run this time?

    As a democrat, Romney is the one republican that I find really worrisome. If the economy is still real bad come Nov '12, Obama is gone pretty much no matter who runs(cept maybe the fringe folks), if it is real good, Obama wins against any one. If the economy is like it probably will be, better but not great, Romney is the only one I could see with a real chance ass a republican.
    Name recognition at this point in time may not be the most attractive criteria to judge on. The opposition on both sides of the aisle have their prepared barrages already in place to belittle/attack any of the well known names. A big part of Obama's success was that he didn't have any prior baggage when he hit the scene. And by the time the attacks on him started the media had already encapsulated him as the "precious one". (ok, that last part is just my opinion. Others may take another view. )

    But there is something to be said for "late comer" status. Daniels or Pawlenty have an opportunity to define themselves rather than be defined by the opposition




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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Name recognition at this point in time may not be the most attractive criteria to judge on. The opposition on both sides of the aisle have their prepared barrages already in place to belittle/attack any of the well known names. A big part of Obama's success was that he didn't have any prior baggage when he hit the scene. And by the time the attacks on him started the media had already encapsulated him as the "precious one". (ok, that last part is just my opinion. Others may take another view. )

    But there is something to be said for "late comer" status. Daniels or Pawlenty have an opportunity to define themselves rather than be defined by the opposition




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    Obama was not as unknown as all that really. Hell, he had already been a speaker at a DNC convention. He had name recognition for democrats already. Even with that, it took a painfully bad campaign by Clinton for him to get the nomination.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The left has called Palin an idiot so many times, stupid people actually bought into the lie.
    Just a clue Barb....Palin didn't need any help from the left to convince people that she is an idiot....why do you think that McCain and the GOP tried hard to keep her out of any interviews? Probably because she performed so poorly whenever she opened her mouth.
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Just a clue Barb....Palin didn't need any help from the left to convince people that she is an idiot....why do you think that McCain and the GOP tried hard to keep her out of any interviews? Probably because she performed so poorly whenever she opened her mouth.

    yes, and Biden does so well.....


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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    yes, and Biden does so well.....

    He ranks right up there with Dan Quayle.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He ranks right up there with Dan Quayle.

    Nah, Quayle is smarter....You do know that it wasn't Quayle that misspelled that word right?


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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, Quayle is smarter....You do know that it wasn't Quayle that misspelled that word right?

    And Sarah Palin never said "I can see Russia from my house." But it's funnier that way.

    Quayle was absolutely useless, which is why he almost got replaced in '92....

    Why do I even bother? The conservatives here will defend to the death anybody who writes an "R" after their name.

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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    If Palin ever became the US Ambassador to Russia...do you think she would try to work from home?
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    Re: Adviser: Bachmann likely to enter WH race

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, Quayle is smarter....You do know that it wasn't Quayle that misspelled that word right?


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