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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The atheist who spend his life working for aid agencies would go to hell. It's his sins that send him there, not his good works that get him into heaven.
    So even though he dedicated his life to helping people, risked his life in the proccess...

    He goes to hell?

    That sounds like a pretty unjust god to me.

    I put no stock in religion.

    The holy books were written by men, they are imperfect.

    If there is a benevolent all powerful god up there.

    I can tell you that the aid worker is going to heaven.

    Reciting words from a book, and 'accepting christ into your heart' does not make one a good person, or worthy of eternal paradise.

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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Me being a Deist, and have done some studying on all religions, even a couple of world religions courses. In my experience buddism was the least hateful and contradicting.

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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Does Gandhi go to hell? I don't really know. That's for another thread, but let's get right down to the nitty gritty. How about Protestants and Catholics? I was brought up Baptist, and my wife was brought up Catholic. When we were ready to get married, her priest refused to perform the ceremony, and told me to my face that I was about to drag her to hell.
    Nothing personal, but I find this VERY hard to believe. My wife is Buddhist and we had no problem getting our wedding in a Catholic Church and recorded on my baptismal record. Only needed a dispensation from the bishop, which was no problem. Catholic teachings are generally far more inclusive of who will go to heaven than most Protestant groups are, including Baptists based on my conversations with them...
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Anyone who has not been forgiven of sin will be sent to hell because of those sins. The only way to be forgiven is to repent before God. Jesus is the only one who can forgive sin, thus everyone but repentant and forgiven Christians will go to hell. God's love and Grace is strong enough to forgive any sin, however in order to be forgiven we must repent and believe in Jesus and the sacrifice He made. Only God and the individual knows if they are saved, so it's not our place to judge. However, all others will go to hell for their unforgiven sins because their sins prevent them from being in God's Presence and demand judgement. I do believe that this pastor should have been fired.
    But I believe a loving God will give everyone a chance to repent of those sins... and I believe even after death, we will get that chance... We all fall short of the glory of God and remember that God loves all of us and that Jesus died so our sins can be forgiven... Thank God the Catholic faith allows for this in Purgatory...
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Nothing personal, but I find this VERY hard to believe. My wife is Buddhist and we had no problem getting our wedding in a Catholic Church and recorded on my baptismal record. Only needed a dispensation from the bishop, which was no problem. Catholic teachings are generally far more inclusive of who will go to heaven than most Protestant groups are, including Baptists based on my conversations with them...
    Yeah, from my experience Protestants (specifically Calvinists) that I know have a more negative view on salvation in general compared to Catholics.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah, from my experience Protestants (specifically Calvinists) that I know have a more negative view on salvation in general compared to Catholics.
    Calvinists, and those offshoots of Puritanism, including the Baptists, are pretty closed on the topic in my experience... I agree...
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Nothing personal, but I find this VERY hard to believe. My wife is Buddhist and we had no problem getting our wedding in a Catholic Church and recorded on my baptismal record. Only needed a dispensation from the bishop, which was no problem. Catholic teachings are generally far more inclusive of who will go to heaven than most Protestant groups are, including Baptists based on my conversations with them...
    It's the main reason my wife left the Catholic church.
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It's the main reason my wife left the Catholic church.
    Because she thought Catholic teachings are too inclusive??
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It's the main reason my wife left the Catholic church.
    Once again, in all honesty, this is the first time I have heard of a mixed-faith couple denied matrimony in a Catholic Church. Dispensations from the Bishop are pretty routine in most cases. I have known many Catholics who have married Protestants as well as Buddhists and Jews in the Church. This is the very first time I have ever heard of it being denied. There may be something else going on you are not telling us...
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    Re: Who's in hell? Pastor's book sparks eternal debate

    Let's say there is a forgotten tribe somewhere in the Amazon that never heard of Christianity, what happens to them when they die?
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