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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

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    Which part do you want an answer/response to?

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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

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    Ok, your whole response is garbage. I will agree that Hugo Chavez hasn’t yet solidified his position as the permanent dictator of Venezuela but he obviously has dictatorial powers right now, as he made clear to the assembly when he called them little Yankees who can’t make any laws.

    Hitler came to power legally too. Just because someone gains dictator power within the confines of the law of his land doesn’t mean he isn’t a dictator. A dictator, according to Webster Dictionary is “a person granted absolute emergency power; one holding complete autocratic control; one ruling absolutely and often oppressively”.

    That pretty much sums up Hugo Chavez right now. The question is, will things change when his power runs out just before the 2012 elections or will there be another Hitler like emergency that requires his opponents to be jailed or his “rule by presidential creed” to be extended?

    We shall see.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Hitler was not democratically elected first off. He was appointed.. He was appointed Chancellor of Germany. Hitler rose to power through the Nazi Party and used intimidation and try to put him in a position of power. In 1933, under pressure from the Nazi Party and the ineptitude of his own subordinates to deal with Hitler, President Hindenberg appointed Hitler as Chancellor.
    In the 1933 German federal election, the National Socialist German Workers Party won the election and got the Enabling Act of 1933 passed, which promoted Hitler from Chancellor to President/dictator. It was all legal, according to German law just as everything Hugo Chavez does is legal according to Venezuelan law.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Ok, your whole response is garbage. I will agree that Hugo Chavez hasn’t yet solidified his position as the permanent dictator of Venezuela but he obviously has dictatorial powers right now, as he made clear to the assembly when he called them little Yankees who can’t make any laws.

    Hitler came to power legally too. Just because someone gains dictator power within the confines of the law of his land doesn’t mean he isn’t a dictator. A dictator, according to Webster Dictionary is “a person granted absolute emergency power; one holding complete autocratic control; one ruling absolutely and often oppressively”.

    That pretty much sums up Hugo Chavez right now. The question is, will things change when his power runs out just before the 2012 elections or will there be another Hitler like emergency that requires his opponents to be jailed or his “rule by presidential creed” to be extended?

    We shall see.
    I wouldnt call it "garbage"? Is it garbage because you dont agree with it?
    How is he acting oppressively? He does not have "complete control". He has control in like 3 or 4 sectors. Also which you would of learned from my last post is that these laws can be modified or rescinded by the National Assembly at any time and the population has the guaranteed right under our constitution to nullify any of these laws through a national referendum.... Also a law passed under the decree people have powers on deciding how to spend local development funds, the project grants self-governance under Community ruling.. Doesnt really sound like much of this "dictator". Also executive order much? Pretty much the same thing.......
    Yea and on the Enabling Act see the thing is, that the Enabling Act allowed the cabinet to enact legislation, including laws deviating from or altering the constitution, without the consent of the Reichstag. Also and the Reichstag was mostly locked up in jail because of the Reichstage Fire Decree.... Also the people really did not have a say in this soo Hitler was pretty much put in to power by one person: Hindenburg.


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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I wouldnt call it "garbage"? Is it garbage because you dont agree with it?
    How is he acting oppressively? He does not have "complete control". He has control in like 3 or 4 sectors. Also which you would of learned from my last post is that these laws can be modified or rescinded by the National Assembly at any time and the population has the guaranteed right under our constitution to nullify any of these laws through a national referendum.... Also a law passed under the decree people have powers on deciding how to spend local development funds, the project grants self-governance under Community ruling.. Doesnt really sound like much of this "dictator". Also executive order much? Pretty much the same thing.......
    Yea and on the Enabling Act see the thing is, that the Enabling Act allowed the cabinet to enact legislation, including laws deviating from or altering the constitution, without the consent of the Reichstag. Also and the Reichstag was mostly locked up in jail because of the Reichstage Fire Decree.... Also the people really did not have a say in this soo Hitler was pretty much put in to power by one person: Hindenburg.
    Look, I will concede that Chavez was democratically elected but that was after he tried to take over via a coupe and was subsequently pardoned (that blows me away). The guy has total power right now and he has had it for years.

    I really don’t care to research the POS anymore because he is rabidly anti American and I am an American. That makes him my enemy. I wish him a quick demise and hope that you come to your senses soon.

    We will see whether he uses more Hitler like tactics to oppress any opposition in the upcoming 2012 election but my money is on Chavez winning something like 99% of the vote just like the elections in other totalitarian regimes always go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Which US powers of the executive branch are you referring to? I'm having trouble recalling anything even remotely similar to the powers Chavez has.
    I'm sorry unless you're a political scientist specializing in venezuelan politics I really think you cant take that and put it where the sun doesn't shine. Dictator my balls hes been elected only 6-7 times.

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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Look, I will concede that Chavez was democratically elected but that was after he tried to take over via a coupe and was subsequently pardoned (that blows me away). The guy has total power right now and he has had it for years.

    I really don’t care to research the POS anymore because he is rabidly anti American and I am an American. That makes him my enemy. I wish him a quick demise and hope that you come to your senses soon.

    We will see whether he uses more Hitler like tactics to oppress any opposition in the upcoming 2012 election but my money is on Chavez winning something like 99% of the vote just like the elections in other totalitarian regimes always go.
    Come back when you know what youre talking about.

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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    can't really blame him, he's just repeating what Sean Penn told him.
    Are you trying to keep Danny Glover from getting any credit?
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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I'm sorry unless you're a political scientist specializing in venezuelan politics I really think you cant take that and put it where the sun doesn't shine. Dictator my balls hes been elected only 6-7 times.
    Saddam Hussein was elected too.
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    Re: Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Saddam Hussein was elected too.
    Yeah, but the international community wouldnt have to do a double take to know the elections were false. Venezuela has had relatively little trouble with the international community regarding the fairness of elections. Not only this, the new government has plenty of opposition representatives. It's not a one party state. Chavez, though derided by the west and alot of foreign media isn't exactly a clown. He's merely got more bark than is good for him.

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