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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Is it a problem that 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic? I don't believe so. Illegal immigration is a problem, but it's not right to say all hispanics are illegals. They are equally American and are equally protected under our Constitution just like any other person of any other race that is an American citizen.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    This thread has officially misused the term "racist"
    Giant noodle never said he believed that Hispanics were inferior to his or another race.

    What he did was jump to conclusions and assumed the majority of those people were illegal immigrants, which is dumb.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This thread has officially misused the term "racist"
    Giant noodle never said he believed that Hispanics were inferior to his or another race.

    What he did was jump to conclusions and assumed the majority of those people were illegal immigrants, which is dumb.
    With respect, making such wrongful assumptions and generalizations is racist. Racism doesn't necessarily have to be about inferiority.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This thread has officially misused the term "racist"
    Giant noodle never said he believed that Hispanics were inferior to his or another race.

    What he did was jump to conclusions and assumed the majority of those people were illegal immigrants, which is dumb.
    He made the presumption that a high population of Hispanics is inherently a bad thing, and there's no distinction between illegal Mexicans and Americans
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    With respect, making such wrongful assumptions and generalizations is racist. Racism doesn't necessarily have to do with inferiority.
    No it's not.
    It's dumb and prejudicial but it is not racist.

    Racism is the believe that one race is inherently superior to another.
    A racist comment would be, "These there Mexercans are all ignant."

    I have come to hate the term racist, because it seems like it's always an automatic Godwin.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    With respect, making such wrongful assumptions and generalizations is racist. Racism doesn't necessarily have to be about inferiority.
    Without inferiority, it would more accurately be called a stereotype.

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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    He made the presumption that a high population of Hispanics is inherently a bad thing, and there's no distinction between illegal Mexicans and Americans
    He made the presumption that all those Hispanics were illegal, which is completely stupid.
    He failed to read it before he went ballistic.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No it's not.
    It's dumb and prejudicial but it is not racist.

    Racism is the believe that one race is inherently superior to another.
    A racist comment would be, "These there Mexercans are all ignant."

    I have come to hate the term racist, because it seems like it's always an automatic Godwin.
    I stand corrected.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Without inferiority, it would more accurately be called a stereotype.
    Touche. But, if the assumption is that most or all Hispanics are illegal, and illegals are somehow inferior to American citizens, could that be potentially construed as somewhat racist?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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