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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I did not assume racism, and I bet you cannot find even a few examples of me assuming racism in my 30k plus posts. Straw men are not a good debate tactic around here.

    If you look at the numbers I showed, you would see that the legal hispanics far outnumber the illegals, so showing that the hispanics are 1/6 of the us population to bitch about illegal immigration is patently retarded. What makes it even more amusing is polling has shown time and again that hispanic citizens of the US are very much against illegal immigration. But the OP could not be bothered to make that distinction.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Noodle, your source there is an op/ed from one of the most xenophobic members of congress.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Yes you did. Dont deny it.
    Point it out, go ahead.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    You are totally wrong......

    It is past time for all Americans to know what is at the root of this outrageous behavior, and the extent to which the nation is at risk because of "La Raza" -- The Race.

    There are many immigrant groups joined in the overall "La Raza" movement. The most prominent and mainstream organization is the National Council de La Raza -- the Council of "The Race".

    To most of the mainstream media, most members of Congress, and even many of their own members, the National Council of La Raza is no more than a Hispanic Rotary Club.

    But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.

    The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.


    The Mexican flag flew over a crowd of pro-amnesty marchers in New York. Marches like this across the U.S. have been supported by the “La Raza” movement. (Reuters/Seth Wenig)

    Radical 'Reconquista' Agenda

    Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

    Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.


    U.S. Immigration Laws: The Truth About "La Raza" Movement - HUMAN EVENTS
    Yea but they are just a pro Hispanic group, much like the pro Irish, Italian, etc groups that have existed whenever any large ethnic group migrated to the U.S.

    Just more politicized nationally than the groups that came before them.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I did not assume racism, and I bet you cannot find even a few examples of me assuming racism in my 30k plus posts. Straw men are not a good debate tactic around here.

    If you look at the numbers I showed, you would see that the legal hispanics far outnumber the illegals, so showing that the hispanics are 1/6 of the us population to bitch about illegal immigration is patently retarded. What makes it even more amusing is polling has shown time and again that hispanic citizens of the US are very much against illegal immigration. But the OP could not be bothered to make that distinction.
    Besides the fact that legal hispanics residing in the US far outnumber illegal aliens, there is also the fact that even if you take illegals out of the equation, hispanics are still one of, if not the, largest minority groups. Not only that, they are the fastest-growing minority group and that has a whole hell of a lot more to do with birthrates and legal immigration than it has to do with illegal immigration. THAT is why i was bothered by the rant bitching about illegals in the OP, because illegals are far from the main reason so many people in America are Hispanic. Yes, illegals are a problem. No, they are not the main factor in why there are so many Hispanics in this country. In fact if you take out the illegals, the percentage of Americans that claim Hispanic ethnicity would still be somewhere between 1/7 or 1/8, and still growing faster than any other group.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    You are totally wrong......

    It is past time for all Americans to know what is at the root of this outrageous behavior, and the extent to which the nation is at risk because of "La Raza" -- The Race.

    There are many immigrant groups joined in the overall "La Raza" movement. The most prominent and mainstream organization is the National Council de La Raza -- the Council of "The Race".

    To most of the mainstream media, most members of Congress, and even many of their own members, the National Council of La Raza is no more than a Hispanic Rotary Club.

    But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.

    The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.


    The Mexican flag flew over a crowd of pro-amnesty marchers in New York. Marches like this across the U.S. have been supported by the “La Raza” movement. (Reuters/Seth Wenig)

    Radical 'Reconquista' Agenda

    Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

    Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.


    U.S. Immigration Laws: The Truth About "La Raza" Movement - HUMAN EVENTS
    So, they're an ethnic/racial supremacist group. And this makes them distinctive from other supremacist groups how?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Besides the fact that legal hispanics residing in the US far outnumber illegal aliens, there is also the fact that even if you take illegals out of the equation, hispanics are still one of, if not the, largest minority groups. Not only that, they are the fastest-growing minority group and that has a whole hell of a lot more to do with birthrates and legal immigration than it has to do with illegal immigration. THAT is why i was bothered by the rant bitching about illegals in the OP. Yes, illegals are a problem. No, they are not the main factor in why there are so many Hispanics in this country. In fact if you take out the illegals, the percentage of Americans that claim Hispanic ethnicity would still be somewhere between 1/7 or 1/8, and still growing faster than any other group.
    I think what pisses me off the most is I served with a fair number of hispanic americans. These where not just good people, but good people who loved their country and worked hard on it's behalf. They do not need to be **** on by people who think illegal alien every time they see a hispanic.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So, they're an ethnic/racial supremacist group. And this makes them distinctive from other supremacist groups how?
    They are not a supremacist group.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They are not a supremacist group.
    If you're right, it makes Noodle's link seem ridiculously one-sided.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: New milestone: 1 in 6 Americans is Hispanic

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Gives the gov't of Mexico an easy out?? You think the gov't of Mexico WANTS massive emigration out of their country? lol
    Want it or not, the fact that there is a prosperous country on the northern border of Mexico means that no jobs program is at all dire. No civilized people should tolerate it.

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