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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What about all those oilfield jobs? Or, do you take Bill Maher's stance on the issue and say, "**** your jobs"?

    I haven't seen too many nuke powered cars on the market, lately.
    No, but there are certainly electric cars that you can plug into your home and recharge using energy potentially being generated from a nuclear power plant.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oil is a part of the environment and we need it to stay alive.
    No, the planet, obviously.
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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No, but there are certainly electric cars that you can plug into your home and recharge using energy potentially being generated from a nuclear power plant.
    How much more electricity will that cause consumers to have to buy?

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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How much more electricity will that cause consumers to have to buy?
    I'm not sure, but everything is a tradeoff. It's no secret that oil won't last forever.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure, but everything is a tradeoff.
    I see, you get your agenda and everyone else gets the bill, to make you happy. Awesome trade!!


    It's no secret that oil won't last forever.
    That's why we should make the best of it while we can, strengthen our economy from the revenues the industry produces and use that time to develop a practicle replacement. Let's face it, it's going to cost a ****load of money to develop a new energy source and build the infrastructure to support it. Whether the government pays for it, or the private sector pays for it, the money has to come from somewhere. Killing private sector businesses and jobs is a step in the wrong direction.

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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is a pisser. Not because of environmental Damage but because it will give Obama another excuse to keep from drilling oil wells when we need it the most.
    Imagine that...limiting the use of environmentally hazardous technology because it is environmentally hazardous. We should probably build a Mark 1 nuclear reactor right next to your house since what we need most is the affordable energy.

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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    I see, you get your agenda and everyone else gets the bill, to make you happy. Awesome trade!!
    If you want to pay for 7 dollars/gallon gas in the future be my guest.

    That's why we should make the best of it while we can, strengthen our economy from the revenues the industry produces and use that time to develop a practicle replacement. Let's face it, it's going to cost a ****load of money to develop a new energy source and build the infrastructure to support it. Whether the government pays for it, or the private sector pays for it, the money has to come from somewhere. Killing private sector businesses and jobs is a step in the wrong direction.
    I was talking about nuclear power. Nowhere did I say anything about killing private sector jobs.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Imagine that...limiting the use of environmentally hazardous technology because it is environmentally hazardous. We should probably build a Mark 1 nuclear reactor right next to your house since what we need most is the affordable energy.
    You are aware that crude oil is organic and bio-degradable. Yes?

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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You are aware that crude oil is organic and bio-degradable. Yes?
    And burning it is bad for the environment.
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    Re: Massive new oil slick spotted in the Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If you want to pay for 7 dollars/gallon gas in the future be my guest.
    If the government would stop trying to fix every goddamn thing, we wouldn't be paying so much and if we were, we could at least afford to do so.



    I was talking about nuclear power. Nowhere did I say anything about killing private sector jobs.
    You shut down the oil and gas industry and you're killing some of the best paying private sector jobs in the country, not to mention the tax revenue that is generated by those jobs.

    Name another industry where a high-school drop out can go to work at 18, making 50 grand a year.

    What does a law school grad make in his first year post bar exam?

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