Why would one not apply it to all religions?2) OK, so remove the provisions that apply to all religions, other than Islam, and the law apply to Islam only. Cool? Nope. That isn't cool either, as this would be favor the establishment of some religions over others, which also violates the First Amendment.
Right. An example of why this law is unnecessary.3) But, if we allow Sharia law, wouldn't Muslims begin stoning to death adulterers, and those who speak out against Islam? Of course not. There are already laws against that. Let me add that Jews practice Jewish law extensively, and you don't see Jews holding public executions of people who violate God's law, do you? Of course not.
Exactly right. Based on nothing but fear. Reeeedickalus. Dead on.This is why the bill moving through Oklahoma is nothing but a bugagoo, based on nothing but fear tactics. Reasonable people can allow the laws of the various religions to have an impact on the daily lives of those who follow those religions, just as long as it is Constitutional. That, my friends, is the key to the whole thing.
Thank you, Quazi!
"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't read anything about.........
STATE OF OKLAHOMA
1st Session of the 53rd Legislature (2011)
HOUSE BILL 1552 By: Kern
An Act relating to foreign law; stating legislative findings pertaining to certain rights and privileges; defining term; declaring certain rulings and decisions to be in violation of public policy; making certain rulings and decisions void and unenforceable; declaring certain contracts and contractual provisions to be in violation of public policy; making certain contracts and contractual provisions void and unenforceable; requiring denial of certain motions relating to venue; providing for codification; and providing an effective date.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA:
SECTION 1. NEW LAW A new section of law to be codified in the Oklahoma Statutes as Section 20 of Title 12, unless there is created a duplication in numbering, reads as follows:
A. The Legislature fully recognizes the right to contract freely under the laws of this state, and also recognizes that this right may be reasonably and rationally circumscribed pursuant to the state’s interest to protect and promote rights and privileges granted under the United States or Oklahoma Constitution.
B. As used in this section, “foreign law, legal code, or system” means any law, rule, legal code, or system of a jurisdiction outside of any state or territory of the United States, including, but not limited to, international organizations and tribunals, and applied by that jurisdiction’s courts, administrative bodies, or other formal or informal tribunals.
C. Any court, arbitration, tribunal, or administrative agency ruling or decision shall violate the public policy of this state and be void and unenforceable if the court, arbitration, tribunal, or administrative agency bases its rulings or decisions in the matter at issue in whole or in part on any law, rule, legal code or system that would not grant the parties affected by the ruling or decision the same fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges granted under the United States and Oklahoma Constitutions.
D. A contract, or contractual provision if capable of segregation from the contract as a whole, which provides for the choice of a law, legal code or system to govern some or all of the disputes between the parties adjudicated by a court of law or by an arbitration panel arising from the contract mutually agreed upon shall violate the public policy of this state and be void and unenforceable if the law, legal code or system chosen includes or incorporates any substantive or procedural law, as applied to the dispute at issue, that would not grant the parties the same fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges granted under the United States and Oklahoma Constitutions.
E. A contract, or contractual provision if capable of segregation from the contract as a whole, which provides for a jurisdiction for purposes of granting the courts or arbitration panels in personam jurisdiction over the parties to adjudicate any disputes between parties arising from the contract mutually agreed upon shall violate the public policy of this state and be void and unenforceable if the jurisdiction chosen includes any law, legal code or system, as applied to the dispute at issue, that would not grant the parties the same fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges granted under the United States and Oklahoma Constitutions.
F. If a resident of this state, subject to personal jurisdiction in this state, seeks to maintain litigation, arbitration, agency or similarly binding proceedings in this state and if the courts of this state find that granting a claim of forum non conveniens or a related claim violates or would likely violate the fundamental liberties, rights, and privileges granted under the United States and Oklahoma Constitutions of the nonclaimant in the foreign forum with respect to the matter in dispute, then it is the public policy of this state that the claim shall be denied.
SECTION 2. This act shall become effective November 1, 2011.
The ballot title that voters saw on their ballot read:
As someone mentioned earlier this had little to do with the law and more to do with scoring votes and inciting hate/fear.This measure amends the State Constitution. It changes a section that deals with the courts of this state. It would amend Article 7, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It forbids courts from considering or using international law. It forbids courts from considering or using Sharia Law.
International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other. It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.
The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also include international agreements, as well as treaties.
Sharia Law is Islamic law. It is based on two principal sources, the Koran and the teaching of Mohammed.
Shall the proposal be approved?
For the proposal
Against the proposal
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On the other hand, religious preference, freedom, and self determination also plays a role. Many argue that religious institutions are sexist... so perhaps that is at the heart of this issue. Most religions teach women to hide, cover their body, their hair, etc. so they don't promote lust in men. Taking this further you'll find people blame females whom are raped, for their rape. I have no knowledge of religious texts telling men how to act or behave towards women to not promote lust in themselves.
Simply making women take of a burka is not going to change their status in society...
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Before you criticize someone you should walk a mile in their shoes, that way when you do criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.
Please show us where the huge rise in Mosque fires was? Liar
How about the huge rise in violence against against Muslims? You cant or you'll have to look awefully hard for scraps. If anything with Fort Hood & other incidents it was the other way around.
The truth here is plain for us to see that you cant tolerate people with a different opinion than yourself so you throw out crap like this and expose your bigotry and intolerance.
Whats even more amazing is your defense of supporters of Sharia law which is about as hateful & intolerant of a law that could possibly be.
So what is it ignorance? prejudice? or maybe you agree with Sharia?
Last edited by Iron Yank; 03-23-11 at 07:11 PM.
IF there is a way to block Sharia law from even being practiced in America I am 100% for it. It is more evil than witchcraft.
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