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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

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    and if they weren't friendly, once they got within 8 feet and one of them detonated the suicide vest he was wearing, your ass would be DEAD
    I rather die with that then kill an innocent.
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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I rather die with that then kill an innocent.
    my wife and kids would have a problem with me doing that.
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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Maybe more on this topic?

    Obama: No U.S. Forces on the Ground in Libya… Except For Those Guys. - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online

    NPR: “President Obama said Wednesday it was ‘absolutely’ out of the question that U.S. ground forces would be used in Libya.”

    How would the president describe the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit? There is no such thing as a purely air-based combat mission; planes have problems and pilots end up on the ground, and then U.S. forces have to end up on the ground, hopefully briefly, to rescue them and bring them home safely. Ask Scott O’Grady how much time you can spend on the ground while patrolling a no-fly zone.

    Details on the recent rescue:

    The Kearsarge then sent up two MV-22 Ospreys carrying Marine rescue teams. As they were en route, the Harriers dropped two laser-guided bombs near the crash site, apparently to keep Libyans on the ground from approaching the pilot.
    With additional helicopters hovering overhead for security, one of the Ospreys landed and picked up the pilot. He was then taken aboard the Kearsarge.

    The weapons systems officer was recovered by what U.S. officials described as Libyan opposition forces. He is safe, officials have said.

    There are about 2,200 Marines off the shore of Libya right now.
    If this is ends up being true then so much for only targeting militairy compounds. Guess they might be targeting crowds they think are dangerous and not just known forces. I wonder how this went down? Did first guy shoot the unarmed people and then jets came in to bomb because we shot first? If this incident is true I wonder if time will produce another leaked video or if the government has mastered the art of keeping it locked down now.
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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    That is not true, there may be times were all you can do is react but there are plently of times where you have a chance to think.

    And you dont know if the pilot had only 3 seconds, in fact I know for a fact he must have had more time because he called in air support which takes more than 3 seconds to arrive.
    yeah, he probably had 6 seconds. Still not alotta time.

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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I rather die with that then kill an innocent.
    Speaking from experience, or the lack there of?

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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Maybe more on this topic?

    Obama: No U.S. Forces on the Ground in Libya… Except For Those Guys. - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online



    If this is ends up being true then so much for only targeting militairy compounds. Guess they might be targeting crowds they think are dangerous and not just known forces. I wonder how this went down? Did first guy shoot the unarmed people and then jets came in to bomb because we shot first? If this incident is true I wonder if time will produce another leaked video or if the government has mastered the art of keeping it locked down now.
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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Seems like it would be a good idea given that we're fighting in built-up urban areas these days with civilian populations (and hostiles who hide amongst them).
    So...where do you think those rounds will end up?

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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So...where do you think those rounds will end up?
    In a wall somewhere maybe.
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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Except when it comes to proper word usage :P
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    Re: U.S. rescue chopper shoots six Libyan villagers as they welcome pilots of downed

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
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    Obama: No U.S. Forces on the Ground in Libya… Except For Those Guys. - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online



    If this is ends up being true then so much for only targeting militairy compounds. Guess they might be targeting crowds they think are dangerous and not just known forces. I wonder how this went down? Did first guy shoot the unarmed people and then jets came in to bomb because we shot first? If this incident is true I wonder if time will produce another leaked video or if the government has mastered the art of keeping it locked down now.

    But they already admit that they drop the bomb, what else is there to leak? You are either okay with them dropping it and shooting at that crowd or you're not. I saw an interview of a Libyan man injured by the shrapnel from the bomb and said he understood and no hard feelings (paraphrase).
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