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White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

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By Sam Youngman - 03/22/11 10:23 AM ET

The White House suggested Tuesday the mission in Libya is one of regime change, despite emphatic statements from President Obama and military brass that the goal is not to remove Moammar Gadhafi from power.
According to a White House readout of a Monday night call between Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the two leaders "underscored their shared commitment to the goal of helping provide the Libyan people an opportunity to transform their country, by installing a democratic system that respects the people’s will."
Well well well, all this sound familiar? :doh
 
Here comes the spin.
 
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Well well well, all this sound familiar? :doh

What's the definition of insanity again? Trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results? We all may very well be insane.
 
I'm so sick of this ****...but it's not like I didn't expect it.
 
We should not install anything. This should be up to the people of Libya.
 
Swear to God. If we put our troops in there, I'll be in the streets protesting. Unbelievable.

Not even boots. We shouldn't be bombing these places. It's not our problem, and I don't see why we need to sink the money into it. We've done this already, look at Iraq...didn't work out so well. We're obviously very bad at installing foreign governments and it more often then not comes back to bite us in the ass. Perhaps it's time to just stop. We do not need to be the world's police. It's expensive, it's not rewarding, and we don't get paid.
 
Not even boots. We shouldn't be bombing these places. It's not our problem, and I don't see why we need to sink the money into it. We've done this already, look at Iraq...didn't work out so well. We're obviously very bad at installing foreign governments and it more often then not comes back to bite us in the ass. Perhaps it's time to just stop. We do not need to be the world's police. It's expensive, it's not rewarding, and we don't get paid.

I supported the no-fly zone -- I guess without really understanding what that meant. I thought it meant if we catch any military planes in the air that we'd shoot them down. I didn't realize it meant bombing Daffy's compound and other military installations. Knowing that now, I think I'd have wanted to listen to DP'ers brainstorm what else might have been done instead. I strongly support the rebels and their mission to depose Daffy -- perhaps there was another way. Well. There was. But we don't do political assassinations.

Edit: Haven't seen DonaldSutherland. I wonder how he'd weigh in on what's happening...
 
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Well well well, all this sound familiar? :doh
Did I hear "Regime Change"?
Hmmmm...

"So let me be clear. No system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other..." Sound familiar?
King Hussein Obama
Leader of the Amerikan Regime at Cairo University
6/5/09

I'm so sick of this ****...but it's not like I didn't expect it.
Are you saying you knew he was a liar? Or that his Disney world view was not possible?

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Swear to God. If we put our troops in there, I'll be in the streets protesting. Unbelievable.

I'm curious as to why the anti-war crowd isn't already in the streets.
 
I'm curious as to why the anti-war crowd isn't already in the streets.

I have a feeling people are still waiting to see how far it's going to go.
 
I supported the no-fly zone -- I guess without really understanding what that meant. I thought it meant if we catch any military planes in the air that we'd shoot them down. I didn't realize it meant bombing Daffy's compound and other military installations. Knowing that now, I think I'd have wanted to listen to DP'ers brainstorm what else might have been done instead. I strongly support the rebels and their mission to depose Daffy -- perhaps there was another way. Well. There was. But we don't do political assassinations.

Edit: Haven't seen DonaldSutherland. I wonder how he'd weigh in on what's happening...

Think it might have something to do with the fact that he was 100% wrong on this subject?
 
I have a feeling people are still waiting to see how far it's going to go.

There were protestors in the street before we sent troops into Afghanistan. They didn't wait to see how far it was going to go.

I think it will be a sad day for the Leftists to discover that the war protests had more to do with who was president than they did about the war.
 
They're all busy in Wisconsin.

Wanna know the funny part?

The day we launched the airstrikes in Libya, the anti-war dorks were protesting the invasion of Iraq. :rofl
 
Wanna know the funny part?

The day we launched the airstrikes in Libya, the anti-war dorks were protesting the invasion of Iraq. :rofl

So far, this isn't equal to Iraq. Stopping the civilian killing is different than invading on a pretext. Now, if he means to install a democracy, he's making a similar mistake to what Bush made in Iraq. We do have to see where this goes.
 
There were protestors in the street before we sent troops into Afghanistan. They didn't wait to see how far it was going to go.

I think it will be a sad day for the Leftists to discover that the war protests had more to do with who was president than they did about the war.

Well considering a lot of "leftists" have criticized Obama for this move - I doubt that.
 
So far, this isn't equal to Iraq. Stopping the civilian killing is different than invading on a pretext. Now, if he means to install a democracy, he's making a similar mistake to what Bush made in Iraq. We do have to see where this goes.

It's a war! :lamo
 
Wait just a damn minute this is Obama the water walker, you are not seeing what you think you see or hearing what you think you hear.

Obama would never invade any Country, he's anti-war and swore would pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and now you all think he's been allowing attacks using Predators on targets in Pakistan and now firing over a hundred Cruise missiles into Libya, and sending war planes in to attack ground targets in support of Rebels.

It has to be a mistake and we jut got it wrong.

Either that or is it possible Obama is a liar? OMG!
 
Are you saying you knew he was a liar? Or that his Disney world view was not possible?

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I can't directly address your questions because they refer to things that do not exist, but I can answer the general question behind them:

Q: Why did you expect the U.S. to try to install democracy in Libya?

A: I expected it because the United States, under every party, has a history of undertaking the difficult task of nation-building even when its on the brink of military and economic overstretch.
 
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I would say to everyone "REMAIN CALM!" Per the article in the OP, it's speculation at this point as to knowing exactly what's going to happen in Libya as far as what form of government takes shape when Ghadaffi (spell check) is either removed from power by force or he leaves of his own accord if he leaves at all. More to the point, without knowing exactly what the U.N. resolution states, you really can't determine for sure what's going to happen because we don't know what the resolution actually calls for. (I tried to find the resolution calling for Libyan air strikes but it's not posted at the U.N.'s website yet.)
 
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Well well well, all this sound familiar? :doh

And the mission creep continues. The no-fly zone quickly escalated to air strikes, and now protecting Libya's people has escalated to spreading democracy to Libya. One way or another, Obama is NOT going to get the result he wants in Libya. It's better to not even be involved in this.
 
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