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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    At leaste they didn't lie to us and concoct some ridiculous story about Weapons of Mass Destruction or something silly like that.
    no they just lied that they (the govt.) are concerned about what is being done to the libyan people. when we have starving homeless people in this country they could care less about apparently.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    GWB administration lied to the country.
    they ALL lie to the country they are politicians that is what they do.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Lying or not, it's improper use of my military.
    exactly! the proper use of the military is to defend the country from invaders foreign and domestic and i say the 16 million illegals (that just walked across when we spend more than the rest of the world combined on defense) just walking across are most definently foreign invaders!!!

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    we care about iraq genocide? we don't care about the homeless starving people in this country what makes you think we give 2 ****s about any iraq people? bs! "global terrorism"? how do/did we defeat that again? bs!! wmd's fell flat!!! bs!!!
    Setting the over-the-top rhetotric aside...

    Exactly where do you get the notion we dont care about the homeless or starving in this country? There are countless private organizations as well as local state and federal that work daily to feed and house people. And no...we didnt 'defeat' global terrorism, that doesnt make the reality that Saddam supported global terrorism less true. And the claim re WMDS was that Iraq refused to comply with UN resolutions demanding an accounting of their WMDs...something we still dont have. The UN passed 17 separate resolutions demanding Iraq state where the chemical weapons are that were cataloged post GW1. Weapons everyone knew or at least believed he posessed...EVERYONE...including every elected democrat long before Bush2. Three primary reasons...agree with them or disagree...but thats what was given. Genocide was used by Clinton and now Obama as their primary motivation for staking us to war against the Serbs and now Libya. Its apparently a relevant reason...when it is a democrat taking us to war.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Setting the over-the-top rhetotric aside...

    Exactly where do you get the notion we dont care about the homeless or starving in this country? There are countless private organizations as well as local state and federal that work daily to feed and house people. And no...we didnt 'defeat' global terrorism, that doesnt make the reality that Saddam supported global terrorism less true. And the claim re WMDS was that Iraq refused to comply with UN resolutions demanding an accounting of their WMDs...something we still dont have. The UN passed 17 separate resolutions demanding Iraq state where the chemical weapons are that were cataloged post GW1. Weapons everyone knew or at least believed he posessed...EVERYONE...including every elected democrat long before Bush2. Three primary reasons...agree with them or disagree...but thats what was given. Genocide was used by Clinton and now Obama as their primary motivation for staking us to war against the Serbs and now Libya. Its apparently a relevant reason...when it is a democrat taking us to war.
    I think at some point we have to deal with the real realities that we do not get involved in "any" conflict or war that does not benefit some of us in some way. If Sadam had any WMD he would have had to ship them here to the USA to deploy them before they would have been a threat to us. We could have better used all the of money spent on all wars right here at home building our infrastructure, investing in the technologies of the future and on securing our country, instead we get involved in the internal struggles of other countries and build the economies of other nations through trade. When do we quit accepting the BS we are spoon fed by the few elite who have nothing more in mind then continuing to control the masses through mind control. We could set an example of how well we live in the USA and let other countries strive to copy us, instead we continually breed new enemies by getting in the middle of the internal struggles of other countries.

    When are we going to move to the next level of civilization and quit being nothing more then the invading conquering pawns and puppets of those few who really control those we elect to represent us, how many more of our children do we sacrifice, how much more of our economy do we redistribute to foreign nations before we wake up and concentrate on maintaining and improving our own lives?

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I'm so sick of this ****...but it's not like I didn't expect it.
    Well that's too bad.

    As 0bama makes a blatant hypocrite of himself you lefties are just going to have to eat a few **** sandwiches.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Well that's too bad.

    As 0bama makes a blatant hypocrite of himself you lefties are just going to have to eat a few **** sandwiches.
    This doesn't really change my opinion of Obama - anybody who examines U.S. foreign policy knows it doesn't change much from president to president. Both parties love the opportunity to spread some democracy - although I do like that Obama has showed more initial restraint and hesitancy and Bush, Jr.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I think you're overestimating the role of partisan loyalty that goes into a lot of liberals' thought processes and undervaluing the differences in the atmosphere of the country between now and when we entered Iraq/Afganistan. Nonetheless, here you go:

    1,500 protest US occupation in Iraq, Libya | abc7chicago.com

    Some Americans already protesting U.S. military involvement in Libya



    1500 wow.....


    Obama lied people died.....
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This doesn't really change my opinion of Obama - anybody who examines U.S. foreign policy knows it doesn't change much from president to president. Both parties love the opportunity to spread some democracy - although I do like that Obama has showed more initial restraint and hesitancy and Bush, Jr.


    DIthering, is that what your calling restraint these days? It took Bush a year or so, it took Obama about a month to vote present.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I supported the no-fly zone -- I guess without really understanding what that meant. I thought it meant if we catch any military planes in the air that we'd shoot them down. I didn't realize it meant bombing Daffy's compound and other military installations. Knowing that now, I think I'd have wanted to listen to DP'ers brainstorm what else might have been done instead. I strongly support the rebels and their mission to depose Daffy -- perhaps there was another way. Well. There was. But we don't do political assassinations.

    Edit: Haven't seen DonaldSutherland. I wonder how he'd weigh in on what's happening...

    The rebels are supported by none other than Al queda WHY? because al queda wants daffy out so they can make it a terrorist safe haven if afghan falls for them
    We shouldnt be involved anywhere in the middle east unless its directly in our interests or natural security...in plain english screw the UN throw it out of the USA, theyve been leeching on us for decades

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