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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    If you have read it (highly doubtful) then you know what you are saying isn't true.
    You are either functionally illiterate or outright dishonest.
    Or a number of other alternatives. One of these other possible alternatives is that you're mistaken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    That's an outright lie. I'm calling you on it.
    See post 384 and 385 of this very thread.
    No, it's actually quite true that I wasn't sure about it.
    If you think that, "I am not so sure that you ever did post the things that Hussein was willing to work with an aQ associated group to do," is the equivalent of "You have never posted the things that Hussein was willing to work with an aQ associated group to do," then you're not accurately discerning the meaning of the sentences that you are reading.

    I have noticed that, to me, these sorts of distinctions sometimes seem lost on you. I am possibly wrong about that.
    Also, I apologize for bringing you up as a subject in the debate. I just wanted to make note of it for you in case it helps with anything.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Or a number of other alternatives. One of these other possible alternatives is that you're mistaken.
    I'm mistaken about direct quotes from the IPP report? BS. You're lying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    No, it's actually quite true that I wasn't sure about it.
    BS Moon. You responded in post 388 with this nonsense.

    Cut him some slack. I don't think it's intentional deflection.

    You are in fact lying about this now and I busted you on it.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I'm mistaken about direct quotes from the IPP report? BS. You're lying.
    Have you considered the possibility that the conclusions you reached based upon those quotes could be mistaken or based on slight misreadings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    BS Moon. You responded in post 388 with this nonsense.
    Cut him some slack. I don't think it's intentional deflection.
    You are in fact lying about this now and I busted you on it.
    Again, I think you have missed an important aspect of what you have read of my post.
    What you posted in those posts, #s 384 and 385, do not say exactly what activities Hussein was willing to work with an aQ associated group to do. Nor, are they the examples of the times when Hussein's regime actually did work with an aQ associated group that are given in the IPP report.


    And as an example of what I was saying in re the evidence of Hussein's regime's hesitancy to get involved in anything that would rile up "the West."

    In one case, Iraq's ambassador in Switzerland, who was also Saddam' s half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti, recommended that the Director of the IIS meet directly with an Egyptian who had strong connections to Islamic parties and anti-Western Islamic organizations," and who was offering his assistance in brokering an alliance. But the director of the IIS department responsible for Arab issues did not concur with the ambassador ' s recommendation and cautioned in an internal memorandum that a meeting at such a level would "not serve the current Iraqi situation. . . and will make us lose our main target." He went on to note that working with the religious parties was dangerous at this time because they were "associated with the religious terror, which Hezbollah and Iran are practicing . . . and it is provoking the West.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Have you considered the possibility that the conclusions you reached based upon those quotes could be mistaken or based on slight misreadings?
    They are not my conclusions BSer. They are the conclusions of the people who wrote the report.

    You would know that if you read the report. Instead you continue to deliberately lie about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Again, I think you have missed an important aspect of what you have read of my post.
    I've missed nothing. You're a liar and I busted you on it.

    Welcome to my ignore list liar.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    They are not my conclusions BSer. They are the conclusions of the people who wrote the report.
    You would know that if you read the report. Instead you continue to deliberately lie about that.
    I've missed nothing. You're a liar and I busted you on it.
    Welcome to my ignore list liar.
    Thank you. In all my years here I don't think I have ever had the honor of being one someone's ignore list before.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Thank you. In all my years here I don't think I have ever had the honor of being one someone's ignore list before.
    I've had the same person indulge in much drama about their having me on ignore on multiple occasions.

    Oddly enough, they keep on responding to my posts. Must be a malfunction of the ignore option, methinks.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I've had the same person indulge in much drama about their having me on ignore on multiple occasions.

    Oddly enough, they keep on responding to my posts. Must be a malfunction of the ignore option, methinks.
    I just busted Moon lying to me. I don't like exchanging posts with dishonest posters. They are a waste of time.

    Moon did exactly the same thing in the WMD thread I started.

    He is the only self professed "conservative" I know who still refuses to accept the findings of international weapons inspectors and the IPP report.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I've had the same person indulge in much drama about their having me on ignore on multiple occasions.

    Oddly enough, they keep on responding to my posts. Must be a malfunction of the ignore option, methinks.
    I see what you mean here:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059427210

    The function must be bugged. I'll let vauge know that's broked.

    btw, what's the 50% more sane bit about anyway?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Prove this utter BS you typed here?

    j-mac
    J, it's easy addition. We killed iraqis. They were not part of the terrorist groups we're talking about, so they can't count as killing those terrorist. The numbers in all the reports say only 5% of those who came to Iraq had any connection to any terrorist group prior to coming to Iraq, so they and the iraqs are all new recruits. So, that means that only 5% of the %5 of foriegn fighters who were Iaq would fall under the stat of us killing terrorist who are not new. That means 95% are new recruits among those who came to Iraq, and all the Iraqis are new as they were not with Al Qaeda or any such group prior. It's simple addition.

    And j, I've posted those numbers for you many times over the years. Perhaps you should bookmark them so you have them.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Let's see, did this documentation come from the Huffington Post and Media Matters?
    Nope. From CIA and Military reports. Used the Boston Globe and Washington Post as links. Never used media matters for much of anything. Only used Huffington a few times. But the important thing is they (Boston and WP) linked it to military and CIA reports. I think the Christian Science Monitor also had a few articles on it as well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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