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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You've certainly seen this from me before, with documentation. As it is documented, and you have seen it, I'm not sure how you can challenge it.
    Iraq is a big success. I mean, Shell, BP, Exxon/Mobil, Chevron and other Big Corporate cash registers with hands to work your sock puppets are profiting handsomely. So what that there are a bunch of dead Iraqis. And more dying. Eggs and scrambled eggs. You have to start relating to the greater good. Globalization and Privatization means turning the World over to Multi National Corporations and you've got to get on the train. Your opposition smacks of tyranny against the very Corporations that are running your wars and lives. Wake up, man. Get Corporate today. Multi-National today. Get some strong currency.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    The dummies who joined AQI are either dead or have rejected Al Qaeda in favor of a free and peaceful Iraq. Ever heard of the Sunni Awakening? Some recruiting bonana!

    AQI has been decimated and our military leaders have stated there are only around 100 al Qaeda left in Afghanistan.

    By fighting them we have decimated al Qaeda's ranks and we have captured documents suggesting they are having a lot difficulty recruiting replacements.

    If you ever care to find out about the shift in Iraq and why it happened you will need to read The Strongest Tribe by Bing West.




    I know that. They are either dead or now on the side of the Iraqi Government and the coalition.



    I never said that he did so stuff the BS Boo. Iraqi terrorists were sent out to kill innocent people. The IPP report confirms that.

    Saddam wanted to send terrorists to the US to kill President Bush and they could have easily flown out on a commercial aircraft or simply driven across the border to get out of Iraq.

    The US Navy positioned to "contain" Saddam as was suggested by MA, which is how this conversation started if you remember, would not have been able to do anything stop them.

    See how easy that was?
    Again, Iraqis were not terroriszing us, fighting us, or doing much of anything before we invaded, so killing them can't rationally count as killing terrorist. And new recruits don't hurt the organization we're fighting, even when they die (many killed themselves).

    And terrorist were not sent from Iraq. The effort to kill the first Bush was years before, and was dealt with. Saddam paid dearly for that. So, Saddam was contained, and was not, repeat not, sending out terrorist. You present something that simply did not happen.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Iraq is a big success. I mean, Shell, BP, Exxon/Mobil, Chevron and other Big Corporate cash registers with hands to work your sock puppets are profiting handsomely. So what that there are a bunch of dead Iraqis. And more dying. Eggs and scrambled eggs. You have to start relating to the greater good. Globalization and Privatization means turning the World over to Multi National Corporations and you've got to get on the train. Your opposition smacks of tyranny against the very Corporations that are running your wars and lives. Wake up, man. Get Corporate today. Multi-National today. Get some strong currency.
    The Iraqi people are profiting from their sale of oil on the open market. As as do lots nations including the US.

    The pain and suffering amongst lefties caused by a free and peacful Iraq continues to this very day.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    The Iraqi people are profiting from their sale of oil on the open market. As as do lots nations including the US.

    The pain and suffering amongst lefties caused by a free and peacful Iraq continues to this very day.
    You're still ignoring the facts.

    Civilian deaths from violence in 2010 :: Iraq Body Count

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, Iraqis were not terroriszing us, fighting us, or doing much of anything before we invaded,
    That would be news to the pilots flying NFZ missions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    ....so killing them can't rationally count as killing terrorist. And new recruits don't hurt the organization we're fighting, even when they die (many killed themselves).
    If they joind a jihadi group to commit terrorist acts against their own people then they sure a hell were terrorists in every sense of the word.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And terrorist were not sent from Iraq. The effort to kill the first Bush was years before, and was dealt with. Saddam paid dearly for that. So, Saddam was contained, and was not, repeat not, sending out terrorist. You present something that simply did not happen.
    If you refuse to read the IPP report you will always be ignorant about Saddam's terrorist connections and the terrorists who came in and went out of Iraq.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because there is still violence in Iraq means it's not free and peaceful?

    Our nation is free and peaceful and we have lots of violent acts here including terrorist attacks.

    I'm not ignoring anything Boo. Nice try though.

    You sound very familiar to me. Where else have you posted?
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

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    That would be news to the pilots flying NFZ missions.
    No, it wouldn't. They know pissing in the wind when they see it.

    If they joind a jihadi group to commit terrorist acts against their own people then they sure a hell were terrorists in every sense of the word.
    Which is meaningless to our discussion. They were not a major factor in terrorism outside Iraq and not a threat to us.


    If you refuse to read the IPP report you will always be ignorant about Saddam's terrorist connections and the terrorists who came in and went out of Iraq.
    You are misreading. There were no working relationships, and this has been shown to you before.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Because there is still violence in Iraq means it's not free and peaceful?

    Our nation is free and peaceful and we have lots of violent acts here including terrorist attacks.

    I'm not ignoring anything Boo. Nice try though.

    You sound very familiar to me. Where else have you posted?
    Peacefull means a relative lack of violence. If we were killing each as part of an ongoing conflict, we would not use the word peaceful.

    As for free? Are they? Really? Define their freedom.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is a wonderfully isolationist view you got going on there. I am sure that is part of the reason that China and Russia are gaining ground on oil supplies that used to come here, now under contract to go there.
    No, the reason the oil goes to China is because of money. It goes to the highest bidder. Russia has tons of natural resources, like natural gas up the wazoo. Trade gas for any extra oil they need (outside of what they drill themselves)? Probably. That and the oil coming out of Iran. Russia traded nuclear reactors for oil from Iran. At least it wasn't trading weapons to fund a civil war in Central America.

    That said, Saudi Arabia is an important strategic ally to the US. We need the oil. This is why we need to try to develop alternative energy sources, but until then....

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Originally Posted by j-mac
    Quote"That is a wonderfully isolationist view you got going on there. I am sure that is part of the reason that China and Russia are gaining ground on oil supplies that used to come here, now under contract to go there."End QUOTE

    They have gained and will conltinue to gain and pass us because of our poor economic policies. The dollar was 120 when GWBush took office and is around 74 today. Most of that drop occurred under the stewardship of Bush. It is still overvalued at 74, so reality is rushing where fools have dared to go, as the music goes. nGee, you don't think if we continued Jimmy Carter's energy policy to develop alternatives and renewables things might be better. Nah! That would make the teflon Reagan a moron, and he's a conservative hero. Must be an oxymoron here.

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