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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    In a new development that suggests that there may be little difference between the Gadhafi and anti-Gadhafi elements in terms of their concern for the welfare of civilians, the BBC reported revealed that the rebels were laying mines near Ajdabiya. Previously, Col. Gadhafi's forces had been using mines and cluster munitions. The BBC reported:

    The BBC filmed rebels planting anti-vehicle mines near the key town of Ajdabiya at the weekend.

    Human Rights Watch researchers said mines had been laid despite rebel assurances they would not be used.
    BBC News - Libya conflict: Rebels accused of reneging on mines vow

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Tens of thousands of dead jihadis has made us safer.

    And once again you have deliberately ignored a very simple point a child could understand.

    It isn't the plane Boo. It's the terrorists on it who intend to do us harm. Once they fly out of Iraq they can go anywhere they want by plane, boat or train.

    It's unbelieveable how dishonest you are.
    10's of Jihadist were killed, creating hundreds of jihadist who were killed, creating thousand of jihadist who were killed (all, along with family members), creating.... Image you are a simple baker working down at Wonder Bread. Iraqi bombs kill your family. Do you stay a simple baker? Or do you take up arms and join the resistance? Violence begets violence and death begets more death.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by sunwestdog View Post
    10's of Jihadist were killed, creating hundreds of jihadist who were killed, creating thousand of jihadist who were killed (all, along with family members), creating.... Image you are a simple baker working down at Wonder Bread. Iraqi bombs kill your family. Do you stay a simple baker? Or do you take up arms and join the resistance? Violence begets violence and death begets more death.
    Yes, we are fighting an idea. No, it is not possible to erradicate terrorism as a tactic or even a strategy 100% - it has always existed and it always will. The US calls it the "War on Terrorism" so as to not inflame the Muslims, but we all not what it really is - it is a Jihad on the Jihad.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by sunwestdog View Post
    10's of Jihadist were killed, creating hundreds of jihadist who were killed, creating thousand of jihadist who were killed (all, along with family members), creating.... Image you are a simple baker working down at Wonder Bread. Iraqi bombs kill your family. Do you stay a simple baker? Or do you take up arms and join the resistance? Violence begets violence and death begets more death.
    Fact. Religion, money, land, and oil are no excuse for their actions or ours.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Moving back from the rebels' Gadhafi-esque approach of endangering civilian lives by laying mines to their gross incompetence, today's edition of The New York Times revealed:

    The first question the British will face is “Whose army?”

    For they will find themselves advising a ragtag rebel force that cannot even agree on who its top officer is, amid squabbling between two generals who both come with unsavory baggage.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/20/wo...0benghazi.html

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by sunwestdog View Post
    10's of Jihadist were killed, creating hundreds of jihadist who were killed, creating thousand of jihadist who were killed (all, along with family members), creating.... Image you are a simple baker working down at Wonder Bread. Iraqi bombs kill your family. Do you stay a simple baker? Or do you take up arms and join the resistance? Violence begets violence and death begets more death.
    The level of ignorance about Iraq continues to this very day. Few care to educate themselves.

    The Iraqi people ("the simple baker") joined the coalition by the hundreds of thousands and fought for their country. But who cares about them right?

    The only Iraqi's lefties care about are the ones who killed innocent people so they can blame their deaths on Bush.

    If you know nothing about Iraq perhaps you should read before making such ignorant statements.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Fact. Religion, money, land, and oil are no excuse for their actions or ours.
    No mention of the millions now living in peace and freedom.

    You lefties would rather take cyanide than admit Bush was right.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Tens of thousands of dead jihadis has made us safer.

    And once again you have deliberately ignored a very simple point a child could understand.

    It isn't the plane Boo. It's the terrorists on it who intend to do us harm. Once they fly out of Iraq they can go anywhere they want by plane, boat or train.

    It's unbelieveable how dishonest you are.
    Afraid not. It is quite likely we've added far more than we've killed. The number was small to begin with, and we helped it grow.

    And no, the comment was a plane flying OUT of those countries. Remember, those on 9/11 were not out Iraq. They were't even out of Afghanistan. They were laregly out of Saudi Arabia. A terrorist can come from anywhere, and we have even seen American born terrorist. This is also a simple point. You don't stop a terrorist out of SA, or evne the US, by invading Iraq.

    Ron, I try to keep it from the personal, but quite frankly, you're not one to speak of honesty. I'll leave it at that.

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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Afraid not. It is quite likely we've added far more than we've killed. The number was small to begin with, and we helped it grow.
    You have no idea how many jihadis flooded into Iraq before and after OIF because you don't care to find out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And no, the comment was a plane flying OUT of those countries. Remember, those on 9/11 were not out Iraq. They were't even out of Afghanistan. They were laregly out of Saudi Arabia. A terrorist can come from anywhere, and we have even seen American born terrorist. This is also a simple point. You don't stop a terrorist out of SA, or evne the US, by invading Iraq.
    We sure as hell stopped the ones who went into Iraq to fight the coalition. Tens of thousands of them are dead.

    And I'm talking about Saddam's terrorists who flew out of Iraq on commercial aircraft.

    It's a simple point you continue to ignore.
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    Re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    No mention of the millions now living in peace and freedom.

    You lefties would rather take cyanide than admit Bush was right.
    Peace and freedom eh? Wasn't there a suicide bombing in Bagdad not so long ago? And if it's peace and freedom, we can pull out in full right? So a decade war which spent over a trillion dollars, cost us thousands of American lives, put our military in a position they shouldn't be in (police) was "right" because they now are living in peace and freedom according to you, huh? What was that thing you said earlier about making ignorant statements? Irony is funny.
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