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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    yesterday: Robert Gates: U.S. Troops could stay in Iraq past end date - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    “So if folks here are going to want us to have a presence, we’re going to need to get on with it pretty quickly in terms of our planning,” [gates] said. “I think there is interest in having a continuing presence. The politics are such that we’ll just have to wait and see because the initiative ultimately has to come from the Iraqis.”
    disappointed?

    again?

    But since then, plenty of progress has been made, he said. Countries throughout the Middle East “would be happy if they could get where to Iraq is today — it isn’t perfect, but it’s new, and it is a democracy and people do have rights.”
    do you disagree with obama's secty of defense?

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    George Orwell was a prophet.
    Heheh, yeah it's a bit unfortunate. That book was meant as a warning, not as a playbook.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    By all means. Let's wait until the missiles start raining down before we do something.
    Or close to that mark at least. Our military should be defensive (our defense) only.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Hows that Libya thing going on?
    Same as Iraq, we'll spend a lot of lives and money on things which aren't our problems.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Or close to that mark at least. Our military should be defensive (our defense) only.
    I largely agree. We should not invade on maybes or migth be's or could be's. We do not change regimes or militarily spread any ideaology no matter how positive that ideaoloogy might be.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I largely agree. We should not invade on maybes or migth be's or could be's. We do not change regimes or militarily spread any ideaology no matter how positive that ideaoloogy might be.
    Yup. We have no rightful say in anyone else's government. The people of the land lend their consent to their government, and that's where their government draws power. Unless you are part of the governed, you have no rightful say in the make up and function of that government. We are responsible to our government alone. Other people have to fight for theirs.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Or close to that mark at least. Our military should be defensive (our defense) only.
    Sometimes the best defense is an active offense.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Or close to that mark at least. Our military should be defensive (our defense) only.
    It's well established that if a country is going to attack you, it's just to attack them first. This has been the case for at least centuries. We don't have to wait until missiles are launched or shots fired or a navy arrives on our shores. We just have to have cause to believe that we will be attacked.
    I may be wrong.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Sometimes the best defense is an active offense.
    Sometimes the best defense is an excellent defense.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Sometimes the best defense is an active offense.
    Then you would argue we should conquor the world?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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