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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I have stated my opinion based on logic, since this was my opinion from the start it is not after the fact, I was not surprised at all that they found no WMD. President Bush changed his mind more often then the wind changed direction as to why we were there
    Perhaps instead of using your 'logic" in coming to your conclusions, Earlzp. you should rely more on facts.

    Here are a whole bunch of them and there are many more resolutions as well. George Bush was not acting alone.

    Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikisource

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Because...if they had....you would have known differently than every intel agency in the world prior to Bush's actions.

    Face it...you and al the others...you are the ultimate arm chair quarterbacks. You are newspaper warriors. You pick and choose 'what you know' based on what you want to read. Bill Clinton KNEW in 2002 that Saddam had chemical weapons. Al Gore KNEW. The old democrat lion Ted Kennedy KNEW. John Kerry KNEW. EVERYONE in 2002 KNEW...

    but YOU woulda knowd better by golly...
    By golly maybe we should start a new thread to address President Bushes war, mean time without derailing this thread any more I will again post my opinion on the situation in Libya

    So what? Tell me what kind of government would you like to see in Libya? I have been watching the word play going on it disgustingly unbelievable listening to some of these space cadets second guessing every thing.

    Some are crying he should have moved sooner some are crying he should be going after Kadafi, some are crying that he should have held congressional meetings before committing and now some are taking installing a democratic system to mean that they want to install puppets like we installed in Iraq and Afganistan. the UN is running this show not the USA, the people of Libya are going to form their own government just like the people in Egypt are attempting to do.


    I am not crazy about our decision to go into Libya but it would be a hard not to try to save the rebels looking to oust Kadafi. There are 28 NATO countries plus some Arabian countries participating, this may be the beginning of a world environment that could redefine the way that wars and conflicts are approached and settled in the future. Finally we have a united front ready to deal with a dictator who we know has caused a lot of pain and suffering around the world, isn't it time to stand up and support the President and his administration?

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Maybe they will see this thread and consult with me the next time before committing our young people to a war.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...post1059370099
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    By golly maybe we should start a new thread to address President Bushes war
    It has been started as you already know.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...post1059370099
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    By golly maybe we should start a new thread to address President Bushes war, mean time without derailing this thread any more I will again post my opinion on the situation in Libya

    So what? Tell me what kind of government would you like to see in Libya? I have been watching the word play going on it disgustingly unbelievable listening to some of these space cadets second guessing every thing.

    Some are crying he should have moved sooner some are crying he should be going after Kadafi, some are crying that he should have held congressional meetings before committing and now some are taking installing a democratic system to mean that they want to install puppets like we installed in Iraq and Afganistan. the UN is running this show not the USA, the people of Libya are going to form their own government just like the people in Egypt are attempting to do.


    I am not crazy about our decision to go into Libya but it would be a hard not to try to save the rebels looking to oust Kadafi. There are 28 NATO countries plus some Arabian countries participating, this may be the beginning of a world environment that could redefine the way that wars and conflicts are approached and settled in the future. Finally we have a united front ready to deal with a dictator who we know has caused a lot of pain and suffering around the world, isn't it time to stand up and support the President and his administration?
    I responded to YOUR quote that was TOTALLY about Bush's war...and you want to talk about derailing a thread? I have a better idea...when you get your ass handed to you...you might want to just say..."touche, sir!"

    Now...about Libya...

    I stated prior to Obamas decision to go into Libya my position. However...SINCE he has made the decision to engage and attack, I support his decision even though it is counter to mine. I will continue to support his decision until US Servicemen are no longer in harms way. Until such time I believe the ONLY position is one of national unity. We can debate the right or wrong later for the purpose of growing and learning. But not during a conflict situation where our enemy see's a nation divided and usually NOT over policy but politics.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    So what? Tell me what kind of government would you like to see in Libya? I have been watching the word play going on it disgustingly unbelievable listening to some of these space cadets second guessing every thing.
    A free and peaceful nation where the government is determined by the people and not a tinhorn tyrant.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Some are crying he should have moved sooner some are crying he should be going after Kadafi, some are crying that he should have held congressional meetings before committing and now some are taking installing a democratic system to mean that they want to install puppets like we installed in Iraq and Afganistan. the UN is running this show not the USA, the people of Libya are going to form their own government just like the people in Egypt are attempting to do.
    The UN passed a resolution. They aren't running the show by any means. From what I'm reading the UN wants to give this thing to NATO.

    0bama has to stand up and lead on this one. As with any military operation there will be problems, mistakes and valid criticisms.

    We did not install puppet governments in Iraq or Afghanistan as you know.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I am not crazy about our decision to go into Libya but it would be a hard not to try to save the rebels looking to oust Kadafi. There are 28 NATO countries plus some Arabian countries participating, this may be the beginning of a world environment that could redefine the way that wars and conflicts are approached and settled in the future. Finally we have a united front ready to deal with a dictator who we know has caused a lot of pain and suffering around the world, isn't it time to stand up and support the President and his administration?
    I support the President on this one as well. The coalition is falling apart and 0bama needs to drop the clubs and start leading.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    When did obama announce to us he was attacking lybia btw? i missed the prime time pre-emption to let us know....
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    When did obama announce to us he was attacking lybia btw? i missed the prime time pre-emption to let us know....
    It went something like this:

    "Today I have ordered US forces to join a coalition of nations to prevent Gaddafi from killing his own people. I'm off to Rio ..... you guys handle it."
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    It went something like this:

    "Today I have ordered US forces to join a coalition of nations to prevent Gaddafi from killing his own people. I'm off to Rio ..... you guys handle it."
    I think you may be letting your conservative values cloud your judgement, try this go back and make believe that a Conservative President was in office if you can and then form a decision based on what you think would best serve America and the world.

    Don't get to upset remember that I said "I think" that is nothing more then my opinion I did not research it so the only source I have is what I read

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    When did obama announce to us he was attacking lybia btw? i missed the prime time pre-emption to let us know....
    When a man attacks Labia, he doesn't announce his intentions.

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