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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    During Mr. Wilson's media blitz, he appeared on more than thirty television
    shows including entertainment venues. Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who
    would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President
    had lied, and that he had "debunked" the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from
    Africa. As discussed in the Niger section of the report, not only did he NOT "debunk"
    the claim, he actually gave some intelligence analysts even more reason to believe that it may be true.
    http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/iraqr...-textunder.pdf
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    During Mr. Wilson's media blitz, he appeared on more than thirty television
    shows including entertainment venues. Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who
    would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President
    had lied, and that he had "debunked" the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from
    Africa. As discussed in the Niger section of the report, not only did he NOT "debunk"
    the claim, he actually gave some intelligence analysts even more reason to believe that it may be true.
    http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/iraqr...-textunder.pdf
    And what is it that you are asserting that this text demonstrates?
    I may be wrong.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I have read these things and did not find any such thing as you assert.
    If you do not wish to debate, perhaps you are in the wrong forum.
    In debate, the person who makes and assertion, such as, "UNSCOM made a case for invading Iraq and used information from Curveball to do so," is obligated to provide backing for their assertion.

    If you are not willing to do so, please concede instead.
    The link for this info no longer works. It's from a Jewish organization and the info was compiled from UNSCOM reports:

    “But, there have been no UN-mandated weapons inspections in Iraq since 1998, and the Assessment notes, "Based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999 and earlier UNSCOM reports, we assess that when the UN inspectors left Iraq they were unable to account for:
    Up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agent, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent.
    Up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approx. 300 tons, which, in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX.
    Growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce over three times the 8,500 liters of anthrax spores Iraq admits to having manufactured).
    Over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents."
    The Assessment adds, "The departure of UNSCOM meant that the international community was unable to establish the truth behind these large discrepancies and greatly diminished its ability to monitor and assess Iraq's continuing attempts to reconstitute its programs."
    http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articl...9,650,122,1759
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    And what is it that you are asserting that this text demonstrates?
    That Joe Wilson started the hoax Bush lied about pre-war WMD intelligence.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    It does look like chaos right now in Libya. 0bama is hopefully realizing he has to lead the free world on this one.

    When the carriers show up I'll know he's finally realized that to remove Gaddafi it will take a bigger effort.

    I'm willing to give 0bama a lot of room to find his feet. So far he's been less than encouraging.

    We need to get behind him right now. Especially those like myself who previously found much to criticize about his Presidency.

    He's getting this one right IMO. He must have the courage and will to see this through. We should support him.
    He's not getting this one right. How long have we been in Iraq, how much money have we spent? How many Americans have died for crap that is not our problem? And you want more? Bigger government, bigger war, more spending, higher debt. Really?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I have never witnessed a cluster**** of government as I have with Obama and his administration's handling of Libya.
    Were you asleep during Bush's handling of Afghanistan and Iraq? Cause it's about the same level of incompetence.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    That Joe Wilson started the hoax Bush lied about pre-war WMD intelligence.
    You should also show that no one else had started this before him and that the things that came after him were the result of his actions.
    Until then you have not demonstrated what you think you have demonstrated.
    I may be wrong.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    He's not getting this one right. How long have we been in Iraq, how much money have we spent? How many Americans have died for crap that is not our problem? And you want more? Bigger government, bigger war, more spending, higher debt. Really?
    Good arguments however I believe the free world is right to act on behalf of the Libyan people and I support 0bama on this one.

    Hopefully he will realize that a strong show of force will errode support for Gaddafi within his military and force him out of power.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    You should also show that no one else had started this before him and that the things that came after him were the result of his actions.
    Until then you have not demonstrated what you think you have demonstrated.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...struction.html
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I have never witnessed a cluster**** of government as I have with Obama and his administration's handling of Libya.
    Did you forget about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Bush and his administration handled those pretty poorly. This Libyan stuff hasn't even gone on long enough to qualify as a "cluster****". Let's talk in 6 months. Nice try though.

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